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Old 05-01-2015, 07:03 PM   #21
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Which one was that?
The one against Anaheim, where he gave up 4 goals and got pulled.

That's why I suggested Gillies. Nothing to lose.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:09 PM   #22
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One of these guys has to step up if they are going to make a series out of this.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:14 PM   #23
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For some reason Ramo feels like a guy more capable of stealing a game. And the only way the Flames win this series is if their tender steals a couple.
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Yup (edit: to EE). The bottom line is that the Flames will have to win the goaltending battle if they hope to make a series of this.

We have 4 goalies:

The Ducks seem to have Hiller's number.
Ramo is the sensible choice, but he hasn't stopped them either.
Ortio hasn't played much since his injury and already has a bad game against them.
Gillies is a wildcard - obviously a huge longshot, but he is really big and that might be helpful with respect to them crashing the net.

Sure it's desperation. But the Flames have to find a way to get great goaltending - and remember, it's only for a short period of time. We're not talking about being a #1 for a whole season - just get hot.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:13 PM   #27
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Perhaps you missed Ortio's last game
Yeah I thought about Ortio, but because of his injury he really hasn't played enough recently. I'd be more inclined to go with Gillies, although I'm not even sure that's possible.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:45 PM   #28
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Yeah I thought about Ortio, but because of his injury he really hasn't played enough recently. I'd be more inclined to go with Gillies, although I'm not even sure that's possible.
As in the Gillies that's played exactly 0 professional games in his career? There couldn't possibly be anything wrong with that..
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:00 PM   #29
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I feel more confident with Ramo in net, can't put my finger on why. Yes, I'm aware Hiller is statistically superior. Ramo just seems more focused and Hiller is more loosey goosey, not sure that makes any sense.
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Which one was that?
He let in 5 goals on 22 shots in a loss against Winnipeg during the last game of the year. In the game before that, he let in 4 goals on 11 shots (against Anaheim).

I think Hiller is a better playoff goalie, but Ramo tends to be good on the road, and Hiller has not performed well against Anaheim at all. Ramo wasn't great during the last game either, but if he doesn't start with a 3 goal deficit, he might play with more confidence.
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Old 05-02-2015, 01:54 AM   #31
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I like this move. Hiller seems to be overthinking last game. Maybe because he wants to show Boudreau he made a mistake. Not saying the goals he gave up was all his fault. Besides Hartley been using the hot goalie system anyways during this season. Hiller got yanked early and lost so it is Karri Ramo's time. Jonas Hiller played much better when he goes in after replacing Ramo.
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..I think Hiller is a better playoff goalie, but Ramo tends to be good on the road, and Hiller has not performed well against Anaheim at all. Ramo wasn't great during the last game either, but if he doesn't start with a 3 goal deficit, he might play with more confidence.
I don't think Hiller is a better goalie because his rebound control leaves much to be desired. Ramo's is better (but perhaps not by much), and that will be key to the Flames' success in this series.

I like the move to Ramo because Hiller has not looked great in two straight games now. I also like this move because Ramo is the only one of the Flames three goalies who have faced Anaheim this season to have beaten them clean.

Also, I'm not as worried about Ramo's performance in Game 1. The problem with him is that he seems to take some time to get up to speed after being parachuted into a game. The second goal he allowed in Game 6 was not great, but he steadied himself and made some really good saves in the third. Here's hoping he had the time in Game 1 to make the adjustments he needs to make.
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I like this move. Hiller seems to be overthinking last game. Maybe because he wants to show Boudreau he made a mistake. Not saying the goals he gave up was all his fault. Besides Hartley been using the hot goalie system anyways during this season. Hiller got yanked early and lost so it is Karri Ramo's time. Jonas Hiller played much better when he goes in after replacing Ramo.
I thought the same about Hiller's performance in Game 6, but if the Flames are going to win this series, then at least one of their goalies is going to have to steal a game. He needs to make the saves that he should make, and then save a few more that he shouldn't. I feel like Ramo is more likely that goalie today.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:10 AM   #34
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If Ortio is playing with confidence in practice for sure. Wouldn't even mind playing Gillies for a game to see if he could catch lightning in a bottle. Heck Anaheim has had our number for years, at this point I think we need a goalie to steal one. Whichever of the 4 goalies that shows the most confidence right now would be fine with me. Hiller needs a little rest and practice to regain his confidence.
Seriously??? So Hartley will just walk in to both Karri Ramo and Jonas Hiller and tell them you both suck and don't give a crap what you guys did in the regular season so I will start our 3rd string goalie or heck maybe start the rookie. Who gives a crap about our motto all season crap. Gillies doesn't need to earn his start so I'll start him.

Unbelievable!! We lost one game and you think both Jonas and Karri lost their confidence? The last time I checked Hiller, Gaudreau, Bennett, Ferland, Schlemko, Engelland and Jooris only started playing full-time with the Flames this season so who the heck cares about the history stuff.
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Old 05-02-2015, 06:55 AM   #35
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As in the Gillies that's played exactly 0 professional games in his career? There couldn't possibly be anything wrong with that..
I'd still go with Ramo or Hiller - even though I have little faith in either.

I'm just saying I'd rather go with Gillies over Ortio at this point if it came to that. Ortio just hadn't played enough since Feb.
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I feel more confident with Ramo in net, can't put my finger on why. Yes, I'm aware Hiller is statistically superior. Ramo just seems more focused and Hiller is more loosey goosey, not sure that makes any sense.
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I feel the book on Hiller is easy..gives up rebounds, leaves blocker/glove side open, drops to early and doesn't cover his five hole when down.
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Ortio? Gillies? Heck, let's throw in MacDonald or Gaudreau (who had just as much time on the pine in the 3rd as all our back-up goalies) too! Or... Let's stick with the tandem that got us to the playoffs and into round 2 and stop panicking over one game.
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