Red Mile discussion #saferedmile

[driveway]

#notallmonahhans

[shogged]

strip show for gaudreau!

[ScorchyScorch]

If this run is going to go on a while the inevitable is going to happen as the party builds... if women choose to do it, who are we to complain?

no one is forcing them. I'll say the phrase for fun because its fun/humorous.. but whether or not these young, intoxicated partiers want to do their thing because well.."yolo"..is on them..and them alone. what I find more disturbing is people who document these things and dedicate a web site to it like in 04.. let's keep the party on the street and off the computers where things get can get messy.. we're living in a dangerous age now. and if people start harrassing/assaulting and think thats ok because of the circumstances then I hope they get busted by an undercover officer in the act.

[pylon]

As much fun as I had on the Red Mile in 04, I never got into the whole show your boobs in public thing. I was more about meeting girls in the bars, and having a good time after the party died down.

If your game is so weak, you have to rely on a playoff run by your favorite hockey team, to get a chance to see a pair of boobs for 3 seconds.... you're doing it wrong. And secondly, I can't have sympathy for women that have regrets later. The whole "I felt pressured, so I did it." is total BS, and in most cases. I would suspect it's a highly revisionist sympathy plea by the victim. What your are regretting is the humiliation the following day, not the act. If you are old enough to be down there, and flash your stuff, you're old enough to know the consequences. But even then, any scumbag loser that would grope a woman flashing a group, is a loser of the highest order. That should be jail time IMO.

What I did learn in 04, is 90% of the people on the Red Mile, can't even be classified as hockey fans. I don't think any of them could name a player that year not named Kiprussoff or Iginla. They are Red Mile fans, not Flames fans. All they care about is a party, not the game itself. In the bars I was in, most the people down there weren't even watching the game. Clad head to toe in Flames gear.... ignoring, not caring or in the know about the result. It looks great on TV, but it is a giant sham.

[Daradon]

Makes me wonder how it all started in 04 in the first place. Were there originally some flashers that got the crowds going and put the idea in everyones heads and horny guys made up the chants to encourage others? Or was it chauvanists who started it up?

For some reason I think it's the first. By saying that though I am not excusing any bad behavior or harrassment, then or now. Nor am I putting any blame on women. Just that it was a weird thing to just start happening out of the blue and I'm trying to remember how it all started and thus understand it better.

I was at a few of the nights, as I had season tickets and was there as it grew organically from just a walk from the Dome down 17th. I don't remember around what game it became a thing. I do remember near the end there were a lot (well small relative to the crowd size, but noticable) of people there with cameras to capture an image which totally disgusted me. You could tell they weren't even there for the hockey or even the party. Just lonely creepy pervs. I didn't see any bullying or people trying to cop a feel but I have no doubt it happened. To be honest I didn't see mich nudity at all, it wasn't the reason I was there and except for one instance, didn't really hang around groups like that.

The new crowds expecting it or trying to recreate it this year bugs me too. Total bullying (and worse) from the get go. Which is why I'm trying to remember how it all began last time. I do believe that it didn't start out so predatory or abusive or pervy (though it no doubt ended that way for some). But I don't know for sure. Kinda doing a chicken and egg loop in my head.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by pylon

As much fun as I had on the Red Mile in 04, I never got into the whole show your boobs in public thing. I was more about meeting girls in the bars, and having a good time after the party died down.

If your game is so weak, you have to rely on a playoff run by your favorite hockey team, to get a chance to see a pair of boobs for 3 seconds.... you're doing it wrong. And secondly, I can't have sympathy for women that have regrets later. The whole "I felt pressured, so I did it." is total BS, and in most cases. I would suspect it's a highly revisionist sympathy plea by the victim. What your are regretting is the humiliation the following day, not the act. If you are old enough to be down there, and flash your stuff, you're old enough to know the consequences. But even then, any scumbag loser that would grope a woman flashing a group, is a loser of the highest order. That should be jail time IMO..

out of thanks but this ^^^

I would only add that the magic and feelings of '04 can't be manufactured or forced. It will happen or it wont.

GFG

[FlameZilla]

Creepy guys targeting individual girls is not cool. At all. Beyond that I don't think it's as huge of a deal as it is blatantly going to become.

If there's a Mardi Gras atmosphere on the Red Mile this spring and exhibitionist girls are really keen to show everyone their boobs then so be it. What's the big deal if it's all in good fun?

I don't see why there's such a taboo about nipples anyway (coming from a new dad who has been around a lot of breast feeding lately).

[Geeoff]

Does Monahan have his parents' permission?

[Wastedyouth]

The repressed sexuality of North America has us terrified and fascinated by women's breasts.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

The repressed sexuality of North America has us terrified and fascinated by women's breasts.

I find them titillating.

[YYC in LAX]

The PG 13 Red Mile:

Flames in 5, what a time to be alive!

[pgsieve]

There aren't enough bars on 17 anymore to get a full red mile going anymore anyway

[PaperBagger'14]

There's no need for that kind of harassment to women. With that being said, it's equally scummy to use the red mile to further a political agenda. Let's keep the red mile for those who want to celebrate hockey, both women and men.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

You know, it may not be "politically correct" to say this, but I don't care.

Any guy who harasses a woman on the street is a loser.

Yeah, I said it. If anyone wants to own up to it, or defend it, go to town. I don't care. You won't change my mind. I'm not going to be politically correct about it.

The dickification of the Red Mile is not cool. That balding* loser in the photo in the OP should be embarrassed.

The playoffs, and being up 3-1 on the Canucks, should be fun for everyone. Nobody should feel threatened if they want to celebrate.


*nothing wrong with balding, of course. I'm active in that activity myself. But if your forehead is bigger than your face, you're too old to be rocking the "I had my dudebro write something obnoxious on my chest, my ginch is hanging out, and I'm not wearing a shirt on the street" look.

Well said, J. I would add that you don't have to grope someone for it to be harassment. Just the sick peer pressure involved with prodding women into doing something they don't want to do is beyond classless. I'm sure there are some girls who want to do that stuff, but I guarantee you not all of them who do it are doing so because they want to. Not saying they are without blame in that situation.

Sickening stuff.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by ScorchyScorch

If this run is going to go on a while the inevitable is going to happen as the party builds... if women choose to do it, who are we to complain?

no one is forcing them. I'll say the phrase for fun because its fun/humorous..

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Creepy guys targeting individual girls is not cool. At all. Beyond that I don't think it's as huge of a deal as it is blatantly going to become.

If there's a Mardi Gras atmosphere on the Red Mile this spring and exhibitionist girls are really keen to show everyone their boobs then so be it. What's the big deal if it's all in good fun?

The point is that some women "feel forced" to show their breasts because of the large number of men (questionable term) around. That is not anyone on this forum's definition of "fun", I would hope. And I would further hope that any CPer would come to the defence of a woman subjected to that kind of harassment.

I would suspect things would be quite different if guys were subjected to the same kind of comments and had to drop their pants.

And, as the parent of a couple of young women in their twenties, I sure would not like to see them subjected to that kind of harassment when all they actually went there was for some "fun" - actual real fun and to share the excitement of a Flames win.

[burn_this_city]

twerk for ferk

[terminator]

#freethenipple

[heep223]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

twerk for ferk

LOL

If I want to see boobs I have my wife. Or the internet.

Guys actually taking this stuff seriously are pretty pathetic, particularly when it's quite obvious some women would feel very uncomfortable with it.

It's kind of fun coming up with funny rhymes though.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

You know, it may not be "politically correct" to say this, but I don't care.

Any guy who harasses a woman on the street is a loser.

Yeah, I said it. If anyone wants to own up to it, or defend it, go to town. I don't care. You won't change my mind. I'm not going to be politically correct about it.

The dickification of the Red Mile is not cool. That balding* loser in the photo in the OP should be embarrassed.

The playoffs, and being up 3-1 on the Canucks, should be fun for everyone. Nobody should feel threatened if they want to celebrate.


*nothing wrong with balding, of course. I'm active in that activity myself. But if your forehead is bigger than your face, you're too old to be rocking the "I had my dudebro write something obnoxious on my chest, my ginch is hanging out, and I'm not wearing a shirt on the street" look.

Best fine print ever.

Maybe I'll go shirtless on the mile and ruin it for everyone.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Sure, this all sounds about right. But let's stop using the term "sexual harassment" incorrectly, please.