04-15-2015, 09:03 AM
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#21
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Chiarelli is from Ottawa so I imagine that might be someone else in play as well. Much better looking roster than the mess that is Toronto.
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Would he be willing to go to a team that won't spend to the cap though?
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04-15-2015, 09:04 AM
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#22
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Wow. Not much room for error in Boston.
One year removed from the Presidents trophy
Two years removed from a Finals appearance
Four years removed from a Stanley Cup Championship
One off year with 96 points still, and turfed.
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04-15-2015, 09:05 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
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Man, there are quite a few quality coaches that are on the market right now.
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04-15-2015, 09:05 AM
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#24
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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horrible firing. 2 cup appearances in 5 years, and one of them a successful run. unreal.
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04-15-2015, 09:06 AM
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Crazy, how do you fire a guy that won the cup and missed the playoffs once. Seems like there is no room for error in Boston, and this is a knee jerk reaction.
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04-15-2015, 09:06 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Seems a little kneejerk to me, Chiarelli took the Bruins from irrelevance to a league powerhouse. Where are the Bruins going to find someone better? I think they just shot themselves in the foot
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I agree he's a good GM, but even the good ones outstay their welcome.
He left the team with a big time cap problem and they may lose some good young players because of it. The Seguin deal, while making sense at the time, looks pretty bad now
Full credit for trying to push your current team over the edge, but he almost went full-Darryl.
He'll land somewhere.
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04-15-2015, 09:08 AM
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#27
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Originally Posted by PrettyBoyFlizzy
Crazy, how do you fire a guy that won the cup and missed the playoffs once. Seems like there is no room for error in Boston, and this is a knee jerk reaction.
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Watching Seguin tear it up in Dallas probably made the decision a bit easier.
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04-15-2015, 09:13 AM
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#28
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Seems a little kneejerk to me
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Really? I think it's a lot kneejerk.
Although I think this is could be best for Chiarelli in the longterm. Boston strikes me as a team that's now past it's peak, that's not to say that they're bad but I think their days as a powerhouse are over for now. Maybe best for Chiarelli to be out now with most of his reputation intact rather then after a few years of slow decline.
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04-15-2015, 09:15 AM
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He has left them in a cap mess, and the Seguin trade will haunt them for years.
Just read somewhere that Chara's knee injury is not repairable. Looks like a team on the decline.
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04-15-2015, 09:16 AM
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I wonder how much the Seguin trade mattered here.
You simply can't afford to whiff that badly on trading a top 5 talent like that.
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04-15-2015, 09:16 AM
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#31
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Good GM, just ran out of cap space.
Cup victory, cup final, decent drafting record.
Harsh firing IMO.
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Good GMs should be able to manage the salary cap better, but he did win the cup so he should get a lot of lee-way.
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04-15-2015, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by automaton 3
He has left them in a cap mess, and the Seguin trade will haunt them for years.
Just read somewhere that Chara's knee injury is not repairable. Looks like a team on the decline.
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Good point. Maybe the team executive realizes that it's time to rebuild and that it's too much to ask the guy who built the team to break it down. Fresh set of eyes, all that.
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04-15-2015, 09:20 AM
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#33
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Originally Posted by codynw
Would he be willing to go to a team that won't spend to the cap though?
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Maybe not, but Ottawa has a nice young roster, and Toronto and San Jose are major rebuilds. I would think going home to a good looking young team would be pretty appealing.
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04-15-2015, 09:21 AM
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#34
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Wow. Not much room for error in Boston.
One year removed from the Presidents trophy
Two years removed from a Finals appearance
Four years removed from a Stanley Cup Championship
One off year with 96 points still, and turfed.
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Those are pretty good accomplishments but it's plain to see that the team is on the decline and in some serious cap trouble. They're not going to be a good team and won't be able to do much about it because of what he's done. It's like he sacrificed the future for the present at the time to win the cup and have that success but the future is now and he paid the price.
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04-15-2015, 09:22 AM
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Sorry to see him go, he came in making great moves and drafting well, and then handed out too many large contracts. Home run on the Kessel deal, but then really bungled the Seguin situation (I don't think you can ever trade a talent like that) and not replacing Boychuk and Iginla killed the season. Cup was great, but managing the cap is imperative in today's NHL. I really hope the new GM gets a progressive aggressive coach that can both handle players and adapt to situations
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04-15-2015, 09:24 AM
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#36
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Not too surprised. He completely blew the Seguin deal (though Neely seemed fully on board with the trade and he's staying), the Bruins' cap situation is a mess, and ultimately he didn't even really have much to do with building the Bruins' core. Bergeron, Krejci, Chara, Lucic, Marchand, and Rask all predate him, as did Thomas and Kessel. Their drafting for most of his tenure also hasn't been particularly great.
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04-15-2015, 09:25 AM
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Norm!
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Even if Edmonton fired Mac-T no general manager is going to go there and work as a shadow puppet under Lowe and Katz.
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in Toronto.
The other move could be that Murray in Ottawa steps aside and he takes that job.
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04-15-2015, 09:26 AM
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#38
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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How successful do you have to be to have some job security? Like seriously, what do they want out of the guy?
If the Oilers had any brains...I know they dont, but if they did...
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04-15-2015, 09:29 AM
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#39
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The line between winning and losing is so thin in the NHL that you simply don't have the luxury to show loyalty to someone for the sake of it. A couple bad moves can seriously set you back in this league from where you can't recover, if you don't have full confidence in the guy making those moves then its time for a change.
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04-15-2015, 09:30 AM
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#40
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Not a surprise and just goes to show that with success comes with unsustainable expectations. IMO the Seguin trade was cause enough to be fired as that trade was a game changer for the Bruins who in the last couple of seasons have been shown up as an old and slow team. Seguin is exactly the type of bridge player they need and they traded him because he was acting his age (pretty shocking when a 20 year old acts like a 20 year old I know) rather than a 30 year old veteran player.
Not really sure what the future holds for the team as I don't see them getting any better as their best players have already had their career seasons for the most part.
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I wonder if the Flames kinda screwed them over here. I bet Weisbrod and Feaster initiated talks and Chiarelli thought the deal would eventually be Seguin for Johnny and The chance to draft Mony. If that was the return it probably would make a lot more short term and term sense than what they ended up with from Dallas.
Maybe when Feaster decided he wasn't going to let those two assets go, Chiarelli was already so deep into the idea of trading Seguin that there was no going back?
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