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Old 04-14-2015, 08:36 AM   #21
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I thought Feaster may have had a chance, but his twitter account turned him into a bit of a child of late. My guess is he isn't even trying for another GM spot
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:47 AM   #22
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I have also heard he isn't liked/respected around the league. The ROR gaffe was huge IMO (though Tallon got another job after his huge error).
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:03 AM   #23
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Well Burke did trade for Kessel, the two picks ended up being Seguin & Hamilton.. and still got a job. The ROR thing was bad, and thank god it didn't go through but honestly nobody in the hockey world really knew much about the rule
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:04 AM   #24
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I think Feaster would be better as an AGM or as a president. I think he made a couple of big blunders while he was a GM, but he without a doubt made some great moves.

However, his strength seems to me that he defers to the experts that he hired/retained. That is why I think president would be a better title for him.

Also, Feaster gets a lot of praise (and rightfully so) for how this team has his fingerprints all over it, but Sutter still has some. Bouma, Brodie and Ferland were all his picks. Just goes to show you that in most cases, a GM has a long-lasting effect on a team.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:15 AM   #25
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Never once heard that rumour.

We all did hear that about Weisbrod, but not Feaster. Any source for that rumour?
This was pretty well known. I forget which major source it was, but they said Jay was unpopular around the league for always thinking he was the smartest guy in the room.
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I listened to that too. It actually makes a lot of sense. Whoever gets the Toronto GM job is going to have to deal with several things...

A: He's going to have to accept that he won't get to hire his own people (Dubas and Hunter aren't going anywhere).

B: He's going to have to deal with a hands on President in Shanahan.

C: He's going to have to tear down the organization and rebuild it from the ground up.

D: He's going to have to deal with the pressures of a Canadian market

... Feaster is almost uniquely qualified for the situation as it is in Toronto. Feaster seems more like a delegation type manager then a one-man show type which by all accounts looks to be what's going on in T.O. Given that they are probably grooming one of Hunter or Dubas to be the long-term guy once they have some more experience it'll be a difficult position to fill with a "hot name". I think they'll try to get Futa but Feaster strikes me as a decent enough fallback option given the circumstances.

He interviewed for the Canucks job before it went to Benning so his name wasn't entirely mud and the Flames success this year can't have hurt his stock (such as it is).
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:20 AM   #27
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He may get hired to be a fall guy again. The Flames were in a hard place back when Feaster took over. The GM that had to tear down that mess was probably not the one that that would be around once things turned around. I think everyone including Feaster knew that he was hired to be fired eventually.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:22 AM   #28
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I've always thought he would be well suited to a Business Manager role. Maybe some comparable to Ken Kings role, but under Burke instead of above him.

I think the positivity and group think mentality has served him well at times, but his lack of hockey knowledge and mouth mean he cannot succeed as a GM.
This exactly. He seemed to be a good organization manager and brought a welcome openness and positivity at a pretty dark time (though in hindsight maybe too open). But he isn't fundamentally a hockey guy and I think that's ultimately his achilles heel as a GM
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Even tearing down the mess is skill in itself. Feaster gets negative points for his Iginla and Bouwmeester trades. If he were to tear down Toronto for example, the word out there is that he would not get enough for Phaneuf and Kessel.
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This was pretty well known. I forget which major source it was, but they said Jay was unpopular around the league for always thinking he was the smartest guy in the room.
that quote was about Weisbrod.
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I think he could be a good rebuilding GM. I'd think Toronto would give him a look if they can't find someone else.
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the word out there is that he would not get enough for Phaneuf and Kessel.
Frankly, given their bad contracts and the level of "don't give a sh1t" that came out of T.O. in the second half... "enough" should basically be "anything".
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If he wants to be a GM then he'll get a job. Real life people are much more forgiving than message board posters.
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I find it hard to believe that a teams best option will be Jay Feaster. If it is good luck to them.
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If he wants to be a GM then he'll get a job. Real life people are much more forgiving than message board posters.
He has to compete with a whole bunch of AGMs looking for a promotion, as well as the guys who've had experience who will be looking.

You've gotta think the former is an issue because of the compensation for raiding front offices that's been raised.
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This was pretty well known. I forget which major source it was, but they said Jay was unpopular around the league for always thinking he was the smartest guy in the room.
It was Peter Mahr
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It was Peter Mahr
Wow. That doesn't sound like Maher. IIRC he was a big supporter of Feaster, wanting the interim tag taken off asap after Sutter left.
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Wow. That doesn't sound like Maher. IIRC he was a big supporter of Feaster, wanting the interim tag taken off asap after Sutter left.
It wasn't really a character tear down, it was just passing down the news on why the decision was made for a change in GM and assist GM.
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If he wants to be a GM then he'll get a job. Real life people are much more forgiving than message board posters.
I don't think its about forgiving, its that there are only 30 GM positions in the league, 60 (if you have 2?) assist GM positions, where GM's want to bring in "their guy" or a bright young hockey mind like Mike Futa or maybe Craig Conroy... and the field is only growing (I can see Matt Stajan being one of them in a few years? Also wouldn't be surprised to see a return of Dave Lowry to the NHL exec position)

Why would you want to "forgive" when you can bring in a young connection that you can train and mentor yourself?
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I only give feaster credit for NOT doing things like forcing the draft. While this was good for him to stay out of, the things he did get his hands on seemed to blow up in his face. Not to mention the embarrassment many of us felt when he opened his mouth in public. Announcing things like "the best player in the draft/outside the nhl" and how he was going to take advantage of teams in cap trouble had me pulling my hair out. Those were things no one should be dumb enough to say let Let alone a GM. IMO We needed a better GM to be successful in the future.
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