NHL teams to pay for raiding management from other teams

[getbak]

This used to be a regular occurrence up until relatively recently. The only difference being that the team's current GM could ask for whatever compensation he felt was fair.

Now, they can't ask for any compensation, but they can also refuse to grant the other team permission to talk to the person if he's still under contract. That seems to be the problem. A lot of GMs won't grant the permission, or they won't grant it until after the Draft is over. With the compensation being available, the idea is that GMs will be more likely to allow other teams to talk to their people.

If Maloney knew he could get the Flames' second round pick (likely to be very early in the round), he might have given Burke permission to talk to/hire Treliving in January last year.

It's unlikely that a team will choose to not hire the person they like just because they'll have to pay compensation. The right coach or GM is worth more than a third round pick.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Jacks

I think a lot of times if a coach gets a new contact it cancels the old one, in that case teams should be happy to get out of the contract.

Sure, but in this case, the Senators, for instance, would be demanding that draft pick for McLean before letting him go. If teams don't want to pay, it freezes him out of a job until that contract expires.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Locke

If this had been enacted a few years ago the Oilers wouldnt have had any draft picks!

The Oilers are the smartest guys in the room, so they don't often hire management from other NHL teams. MacT was an internal promotion. Nelson was internal. I believe Quinn, Renney, and Krueger were all outside the NHL when the Oilers hired them.

Eakins and Tambellini are the only recent (this century) coaching/management hires that would have likely required compensation under these new rules (I don't know what Eakins' contract status was with Toronto at the time of his hiring).

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by getbak

I wonder how this will work if a team doesn't have their pick available? Will it be like RFA offer sheets, where the compensation must be the team's own picks in specific years?

I don't know if fired coaches/GMs who are still under contract would require compensation (I'd think not), but the Kings might not have been able to hire Darryl if this rule had been in place. They had already traded their second rounder in 2012 to Philadelphia in the Richards trade.

We gave the OK to the Kings to hire Darryl. They had to ask and did. We didn't have to OK, but did.

[browna]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

We gave the OK to the Kings to hire Darryl. They had to ask and did. We didn't have to OK, but did.

And Lou allowed Brent to come back West.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

We gave the OK to the Kings to hire Darryl. They had to ask and did. We didn't have to OK, but did.

That's why I wonder if the Flames would have been entitled to compensation under this new scheme because he was still under contract to the Flames even though he wasn't being used by the Flames at the time.

It doesn't seem right that you would have to compensate a team for hiring a person who is no longer being used by that team. Signing him would be doing the other team a favour by getting them out of the contract.


If the Flames would have been entitled to compensation, and the Kings didn't have the required draft pick to give to Calgary, would they have been able to hire him? Could they have chosen to give the Flames their 2013 second rounder instead, or would they have had to reacquire their own 2012 pick from Philly?


In the past, teams were free to negotiate fair compensation for the situation. LeBrun makes it sound like this new compensation will be similar to RFA Offer Sheet compensation. In those cases, the draft picks given for compensation must be the team's own picks, and in the next immediate draft(s).

[Da_Chief]

Good. I can see Connie and Gelinas getting poached in the future. So benefits us for the near future.

[sureLoss]

Friedman just said that teams will have 3 years to decide when they give up the picks

[BACKCHECK!!!]

Quick, better poach MacTavish before the new rule kicks in!

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

Quick, better poach MacTavish before the new rule kicks in!

What's the compensation for taking a team's mascot?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

What's the compensation for taking a team's mascot?

Well stealing a mascot's tongue dooms you to the league's basement for at least a decade.

[Jay Random]

So here's a question. If somebody hires Lowe or MacTavish away from the Oilers, how much compensation do the Oilers have to pay them?

[FAN]

So there's no way to contract this out? I remember in the past there were coaches and GMs that stipulated that the team will not prevent them from leaving the team for a job that amounts to a promotion.