03-23-2015, 11:40 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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the deal also cost the Devils a 10th overall draft pick (dropped it to 30)
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03-23-2015, 11:45 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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For what it worth, his KHL club vice-president denied this rumor, saying that it is not even close to truth.
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03-23-2015, 11:46 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Lou won't do that. He knows that Kovalchuk did him a major favour by wanting to leave, as it got him out from under his owner's mistake. The Devils would be almost guaranteed to support his return for that reason. The old contract was voided, so they have no obligation.
Most other teams likely won't care, and I suspect discussions among the franchises will hinge on the poor optics of blackballing a player. I also find the rules around this curious, as it seems unlikely that previous guys who retired before coming back had to get unanimous consent to return. Also, nothing the league ever does requires unanimous consent. Surprised it isn't 50%+1, two-thirds or three-quarters or something like that.
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I think divisional rivals will care a big deal, an elite scorer like Kovalchuk could make the difference of a team being in the playoffs in this era of parity.
Also it appears the rules around his return are to discourage players from "retiring" from bad contracts and then returning later to sign better deals, in other words circumventing the salary cap. I am sure the kings would love for Richards to retire for a couple of months and then have a change of heart and re-sign.
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03-23-2015, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pointman
For what it worth, his KHL club vice-president denied this rumor, saying that it is not even close to truth.
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Nothing, really.
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03-23-2015, 11:49 AM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Vancouver
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I don't like it as it might just lead to more European players voiding their NHL contracts in the future with the idea that they will be welcomed back. It could make the decision to leave easier.
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03-23-2015, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dino7c
the deal also cost the Devils a 10th overall draft pick (dropped it to 30)
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Didn't the league ultimately cave on this, too?
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03-23-2015, 11:57 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Pointman
For what it worth, his KHL club vice-president denied this rumor, saying that it is not even close to truth.
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lol
(nothing personal)
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03-23-2015, 11:57 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Didn't the league ultimately cave on this, too?
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Yea, they were supposed to lose their pick last year, but the league let them pick 30th.
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03-23-2015, 12:04 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Didn't the league ultimately cave on this, too?
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it already happened
they picked 30th instead of 10th (originally it was no pick at all)
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03-23-2015, 12:32 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Parallex
Meh, in the longterm he probably did the Devils (if not Lou himself) a favour by retiring when he did.
The recapture penalties would have been huge if he'd played out the full front-half of that contract (and Lou ended up weaseling a 1st round pick and reduction of $ penalty back from the NHL as a result).
Sure... but then maybe whoever wants to sign him reminds everyone else that they might one day want something that would require full consent. Ultimately, I think the league would (or should) set an example in encouraging top talent to come to the NHL rather then spitefully blocking them from doing so.
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I think there is a big difference between encouraging top international talent to come to the NHL, and encouraging top international to come to the NHL, and treat it as a pay cheque, and nothing more by allowing them to break contracts as they please to get paid more elsewhere. What reputable company opens it's arms to employees who break employment contracts with them, whenever someone else offers them more. And then they realize it was stupid to quit, while embarrassing every aspect of the business?
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03-23-2015, 12:37 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
I think divisional rivals will care a big deal, an elite scorer like Kovalchuk could make the difference of a team being in the playoffs in this era of parity.
Also it appears the rules around his return are to discourage players from "retiring" from bad contracts and then returning later to sign better deals, in other words circumventing the salary cap. I am sure the kings would love for Richards to retire for a couple of months and then have a change of heart and re-sign.
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Thats a very good point, I could see this setting a pretty bad precedent.
Whats the NHLPA going to say though?
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03-23-2015, 12:40 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Keep him there. He's probably become a russian spy anyway now. Are we sure he isn't in Crimea?
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03-23-2015, 12:42 PM
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#33
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I hope the Oilers sign him.
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Send him to Edmonton!!
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My thoughts exactly. The Oilers should be all over this. A very talented albeit jaded one dimensional Russian floater that's only in it for the money.
Seems like a perfect fit.
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03-23-2015, 12:42 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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03-23-2015, 12:44 PM
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Franchise Player
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If he comes back as a UFA, I feel that there should be some penalty to the Devils. But then I also feel that the NHL treated them harshly by taking away their pick when they first signed his contract.
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03-23-2015, 12:47 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by northcrunk
Keep him there. He's probably become a russian spy anyway now. Are we sure he isn't in Crimea?
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He's on vacation.
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03-23-2015, 12:51 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by Locke
Thats a very good point, I could see this setting a pretty bad precedent.
Whats the NHLPA going to say though?
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They didn't seem to care when the rules were announced when Kovalchuk retired from the NHL.
I assume they were consulted and didn't have a problem with it.
One thing that hasn't been touched on in this thread is if that Kovalchuk doesn't play pro hockey for a year the 30 team approval is not required.
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03-23-2015, 12:52 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
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What would his old contract and/or Free Agent status be if he were to return?
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03-23-2015, 12:54 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Let him wait until he's 35, what's one season? I think the league wants to discourage players from walking on their contracts. I think that outweighs the seats Kovalchuk might fill in whatever market he ends up signing in. The NHL has the upper hand here.
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03-23-2015, 01:43 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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If NJ owned his rights, his old contract must apply. As he retired from the NHL, I'd assume his old contract would pick up right where he left off.
If NJ does not want the contract or the cap hit, they'd simply say no or trade Kovy?
If not, he'd be an UFA. Although I can't imagine he'd be an UFA based on the 1st round hit and financial impact the Devils took.
Interesting question.
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