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Old 03-12-2015, 01:14 PM   #21
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Leddy deal was good, this deal is not.

This has no impact on Giordano's contract. Boychuk is not even in the same stratosphere as a defenseman.
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Old 03-12-2015, 01:15 PM   #22
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I must be the only one that thinks Gio's going to take less money for more term. I'm predicting 6.5 a year, full term.
I do. Top-end #1 Dmen (Pronger/Niedermayer/Lidstrom/Timonen/Etc.) can play at a high level well into their late 30s and early 40s.
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Old 03-12-2015, 01:18 PM   #23
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good deal for both parties. Boychuk gets term, the Isles get a good enough AAV. This is a vital signing for them and Boychuk has been an excellent fit there (Leddy has been too). 7 years is obviously not ideal but I doubt he would have settled for less.
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Old 03-12-2015, 01:32 PM   #24
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I do. Top-end #1 Dmen (Pronger/Niedermayer/Lidstrom/Timonen/Etc.) can play at a high level well into their late 30s and early 40s.
Three of the guys you listed didn't play nearly the physical style Giordano does, and Pronger was half a foot taller and thirty pounds heavier.

On the flipside, if they want to commit to the captain for seven years, who am I to argue.
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Old 03-12-2015, 01:35 PM   #25
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Wouldn't you rather pay him more per year and save on term?
A longer term is better IMO so long as he stays healthy than a bigger cap hit (and if he doesn't, you have LTIR). A guy like Gio is going to be productive for a long, long time. Think for example that in 2018, even if he loses a step it would be amazing to retain Gio's on-ice contributions with a core of:

Brodie (4.65m)
Backlund (RFA this year)
Giordano (2016 is his UFA year)
Hudler (2016 is his UFA year. I dunno if he takes a pay cut, didn't he leave Detroit for a raise?)
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Gaudreau (2016 is his RFA year)
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Russell (2017 is his UFA year)
Wideman (2017 is his UFA year, I dunno if he bounces for money or takes a discount.)
Bennett (let's assume 2018 is his RFA year)
Poirier (let's assume 2018 is his RFA year)

...and still have cap flexibility beyond that to keep good veterans around. And the first of those big years, 2016, we still have Raymond/Bollig/Engelland/Smid on contract.
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I must be the only one that thinks Gio's going to take less money for more term. I'm predicting 6.5 a year, full term.
I can't see that. 7M minimum, more likely closer to 8M. All of his years will be UFA ones, it'll be pricey.
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Old 03-12-2015, 03:06 PM   #27
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Islanders sure like to roll out those monster deals.
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Three of the guys you listed didn't play nearly the physical style Giordano does, and Pronger was half a foot taller and thirty pounds heavier.

On the flipside, if they want to commit to the captain for seven years, who am I to argue.
Oh, I know. But who knows how he'll play over the course of the next 7 years or so? I mean, hes technically home-grown so I think they can offer him 8?
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This signing was inevitable IMO. No way was Boychuk ever going to be a UFA a.
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This signing was inevitable IMO. No way was Boychuk ever going to be a UFA a.
Why would he? He got traded to a good team thats got a chance to win and he gets money and term and he gets to play in one of the league's newest buildings.

He got it all.
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Damnit. Wanted Boychuk on the Flames' blueline next year.
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Old 03-12-2015, 03:55 PM   #32
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Damnit. Wanted Boychuk on the Flames' blueline next year.
Would we rather have Boychuk or Wideman? I don't think we could afford both with Gio, Brodie, and perhaps even Russell later on.
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Would we rather have Boychuk or Wideman? I don't think we could afford both with Gio, Brodie, and perhaps even Russell later on.
Tough call because Boychuk is younger but more expensive while Wideman is a known quantity.
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Old 03-12-2015, 04:12 PM   #34
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I can't see that. 7M minimum, more likely closer to 8M. All of his years will be UFA ones, it'll be pricey.
I am hoping we can secure Gio for a $40-45M or so contract, like $8.5M for 5 years or $7.5M for 6 years, etc. $6.5M for 8 years could net him $52M in the long term, which might actually be pretty good for him as he's probably not likely to sign for high AAV at age 41 when that contract would be up. Could work out quite well for the Flames as well.
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Thankfully these sort of long term contracts have never bitten the Islanders in the ass before.
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The hockey gods were mispleased with the lack of long term, crippling contracts on the Islanders, and have set forth a diabolical plan on this day.
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Damnit. Wanted Boychuk on the Flames' blueline next year.
I wanted him this season.
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