More Police Brutality in the US

[combustiblefuel]

So they acknowledge he doesn't speak or understand English then Get pissed he can't stand up because they took violent actions that lead him to be partially paralyzed. They are considered first responders. After a take down like that they SHOULD know that waiting for a EMT unit before moving him is the logical solution.

Also " stop trying to et away from me"

Give me a break. He saw the second cruiser coming then did the take down.

The second cruisers driver stands there and says "Do you want me to call a medic?" At the same time the original officer is trying to stop the guys nose from bleeding .

Its just unreal. I read 10 stories a day like this in a matter of 6 hours a day.

[Wastedyouth]

You can't just detain (frisk, handcuff or even force answers to questions) someone without adequate suspicion of wrong doing. Everything this cop did was wrong.

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Disgusting.
Hope that cop serves a little time in a public jail, and someone on his unit has seen that takedown video.

[Doodlebug]

Another incident in Washington State last week.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/v...g-to-run-away/

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/b...ic-wrong-here/

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by fatso

This exemplifies so much of what has gone wrong with contemporary policing. What possible explanation can there be for this kind of extreme conduct?

Two officers approaching one, clearly unarmed guy who isn't running or moving quickly in anyway and whose hands appear to be constantly visible? Acknowledging the guy is "from India" and clearly doesn't understand what they're saying? Sending in 'back-up'? Following him for all of about 6 feet before determining they need to subdue him, check, throw him violently to the ground? Come on.

When did the police become at war with the people? And who or what the heck are they protecting in this instance? Terrifying stuff.

I don't blame the police.

They're doing their jobs as outlined and described by society. Over time, society as a whole asked police to ratchet up their confrontations, accepted the intervening outcomes... and now we have the current state of affairs.

As I've noted earlier, many US citizens are fine with this kind of outcome when it comes to interactions / confrontations with police officers. Therefore, I don't expect this event to spur change.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I don't blame the police.

They're doing their jobs as outlined and described by society

In this case, the short answer is ... no, they're not.

They are not protecting or serving anyone or thing by their actions here.

Let's call this for exactly what it is. An unprovoked attack on an elderly man.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Bagor

In this case, the short answer is ... no, they're not.

They are not protecting or serving anyone or thing by their actions here.

Let's call this for exactly what it is. An unprovoked attack on an elderly man.

Just to be clear: these events have happened and continue to happen, and the majority of these cases end with no substantive repercussions for the officers involved.

Therefore, US society is tacitly speaking its views on these events.

I agree with you that there is nothing in the police manual that justifies attacking an elderly man. Nor am I trying to justify / rationalize the actions of these officers. But hypothetically, if society watches you beat an elderly man and then deems that no follow-on repercussions are necessary, then the message is clear.

[Red Ice Player]

This incident was brutal and the officer who committed this assault should lose his job and face criminal charges because what he did was criminal. But since when is a 57 year old man considered elderly? Holy crap stop saying that. Just because he's a grandfather it doesn't mean he's elderly. I'm 57 this year and don't plan on buying a rocking chair for at least another decade. Is everyone on this message board under 30? Sorry to derail.

[fatso]

Originally Posted by Red Ice Player

This incident was brutal and the officer who committed this assault should lose his job and face criminal charges because what he did was criminal. But since when is a 57 year old man considered elderly? Holy crap stop saying that. Just because he's a grandfather it doesn't mean he's elderly. I'm 57 this year and don't plan on buying a rocking chair for at least another decade. Is everyone on this message board under 30? Sorry to derail.

[vanisleflamesfan]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

I don't understand why he kept 'turning away' from the cops.

When you are being questioned by a cop, you don't turn away and start walking. That is just common sense. He should have had more respect for the law.

The force the cops used was un necessary, they should have grabbed his arm and nothing more. I hope the cop gets punished for this.

More respect for the law? "The law" actually says that you can walk away at any time. "The law" actually says that the cop can't force you to stop and answer him unless you are being formally detained in which case he needs a little thing that "The law" calls 'probable cause'. "The law" also says that a cop grabbing your arm in an effort to stop you when you are not being formally detained or arrested is called 'assault'.

Cops are not "The law".

[Street Pharmacist]

This is an honest question. There are over 1 million police officers in the USA. How many incidents are problematic? Zero is impossible, clearly there's too many.

They need to have the confidence of the public to do their jobs, so how does that happen when these types of acts are inevitable?

Proper justice against officers would be a start, but after that, is it possible? Too many people now see a news event and it only cements the idea in their head that it's commonplace

[Coys1882]

That's really strange how if she felt it was a weapon and people were in danger - why was she standing by her car yelling at him to put it down while innocent citizens are walking up beside him and chatting with him. You'd think if he was a threat you'd be keeping the general public away from him.

[Bill Bumface]

Stumbled across this gem.

A guy is arrested over 60 times for trespassing. While at work.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...rently/385874/

[firebug]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

This is an honest question. There are over 1 million police officers in the USA. How many incidents are problematic? Zero is impossible, clearly there's too many.

They need to have the confidence of the public to do their jobs, so how does that happen when these types of acts are inevitable?

Proper justice against officers would be a start, but after that, is it possible? Too many people now see a news event and it only cements the idea in their head that it's commonplace

I wonder if, on a per capita basis, we have more to fear from police officers or 'islamic terrorists'? ;-)

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by firebug

I wonder if, on a per capita basis, we have more to fear from police officers or 'islamic terrorists'? ;-)

Or should there really be so much fear and hand wringing at all?

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by firebug

I wonder if, on a per capita basis, we have more to fear from police officers or 'islamic terrorists'? ;-)

Which one of the two is a citizen of the continental US (especially a person likely engaged in an illegal activity) likely to encounter?

Terrorists tend to do a big splashy 'thing' that gets a lot of people at once. But they are very rarely ever actually seen/encountered. It is far more likely, especially if one is given to engaging in illegal behavior, that a police officer will be encountered.

However, only one of the pair usually actually really wants to kill you. The other will if they must, but would likely prefer not to.

[worth]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Stumbled across this gem.

A guy is arrested over 60 times for trespassing. While at work.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...rently/385874/

The two this American life podcasts listed in the article are really worth listening to.

[OMG!WTF!]

The really scary thing is officer Parker was training his partner at the time he body slammed the guy. Here's how it's done. Watch and learn. Yikes.