Season Ticket Sharing - need opinions

[DoubleF]

Draft out a plan now while the playoffs are hazy.

You should be guaranteed a ticket for the admin work IMO... but...

A draw seems fair. Making them pay to have a chance at the draw seems like a good idea (ie $1/4 or half face value per seat///max $50?). Proceeds from the draw are redistributed to all the other guys sharing who didn't get ticket (less upset guys). Your name goes into the draw for free (or you can get 2x draw chances and pay like the rest of them) for admin and due to bigger share. If all guys go in on the draw, proceeds go to the charity of heep's pocket (or a legit charity) .

You could consider modding the draw so that you draw 2 and each "winner" gets a pair of tickets and non-goers get to split cash for good time at bar rather than pulling 4 names and being all weird. Some people's spouses.... is all I'm going to say.

I don't know, but personally, I don't think they should luck out and get access for free. They split regular season tickets IMO, not play offs.

Also, bring up 2 legit ideas and get them to vote on distribution rules. Then they can't be mad at you for outcome. Draft it up for next year/this year splitters.

[trew]

Originally Posted by heep223

Hey CP I'd really appreciate your opinion on something.

I share season tickets (2 seats) with 6 other guys and we're all good friends. I have 11 games while they have 5 each. We did a typical ticket draft before the season. I've had them for 2 seasons now and they are my tickets - I was on the wait list for 2 years previously. Last season I shared them with one other guy and this season there is 7 of us.

I hadn't even begun to think about how to split the tickets if we made the playoffs and boy am I more than happy to be even thinking about it now. What an awesome year it's been so far. Here we are on Feb 5th and it's looking like it's a possibility.

So I'm wondering how to split them up, if we do make it. Obviously there would be 2 guaranteed home games and with 7 of us, 3 wouldn't make it.

I was initially thinking of taking one of the four available "guaranteed" seats for myself and then a draw for the remaining 3. Would this be unfair? They are my tickets after all but I don't want to be a dick, and like I said we're all good friends. Alternatively I do a straight-up draw, maybe with 2 entries for myself because I have double the games they do? If we get more than 2 home games, the others that haven't had a game yet would draw in. I would be SO choked if I didn't get a game though.

Anyways would really appreciate your opinions or how others handle this. It's my first time sharing tickets with so many ppl.

Do a ticket draft while the team is still in the hunt. Draft all 16 possible playoff games. Prorate picks by ticket percentage, that works out to 8 shares (of which you get 2 for having 2x the games as the others). Ends up that you get four picks and everyone else gets two. Give yourself picks 2 and 7 and randomize the rest, repeating the order in reverse for the second round.

The key is to run the draft when home ice is still a possibility.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by trew

Do a ticket draft while the team is still in the hunt. Draft all 16 possible playoff games. Prorate picks by ticket percentage, that works out to 8 shares (of which you get 2 for having 2x the games as the others). Ends up that you get four picks and everyone else gets two. Give yourself picks 2 and 7 and randomize the rest, repeating the order in reverse for the second round.



The key is to run the draft when home ice is still a possibility.

Plus then we get to have another ticket draft....meaning an excuse to hang out and drink beer!

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Would still appreciate people voting in the poll even if they're not posting their opinion, it may help me to be able to reference an objective third party when talking about it with my friends.

[Radio]

I do the same, sell packages to 5 other guys, including my boss. I have done this since the Save Our Flames campaign.

When it comes to playoffs I reserve the first game of each round for myself and then draw names from a hat for the remaining games. Then cycle through those names as games are played and the list remains the same from year to year. That way if the Flames make the playoffs but lose in the first round the second name on the list becomes the first next time they make the playoffs.

Works for me.

[troutman]

Games 6 or 7 are the ones you want.

[malcolmk14]

Put the other six guys names in a hat 5 times each, and yours 11 times.

Draw 2 names for each game. If someone's name gets drawn twice, put one back and take out another name until 2 people are going.

Make whoever is going pay you face value.

[Radio]

Originally Posted by troutman

Games 6 or 7 are the ones you want.

No guarantee on a 6 or 7.

[heep223]

Just to update everyone on this. Thanks for your opinions.

The opinions of the guys in the group differ quite substantially. One guy thinks it's really unfair for me to guarantee myself a game. Two guys are shocked that I wouldn't guarantee myself a game and would count themselves lucky if they even had the opportunity to be in the draw (ie. "they're your tickets man you should go to every game"). The rest are somewhere in the middle.

I think what I'm going to do is set up a playoff ticket draft, and give myself 1st overall pick and then do a snake draft from there for all 16 possible games with a random draw for the order of the other 6. Can anyone see any meaningful issues with this? Besides the fact that some may take exception to the fact that I'm taking 1st overall.

Everyone has to pay me for their ticket obviously but at STH price (I don't care to make any money off my friends at all).

EDIT: I should add that when we did our initial ticket draft, that's exactly how we did it. Straight up snake draft and I took the first overall pick due to the fact that they're my tickets.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by heep223

I think what I'm going to do is set up a playoff ticket draft, and give myself 1st overall pick and then do a snake draft from there for all 16 possible games with a random draw for the order of the other 6. Can anyone see any meaningful issues with this? Besides the fact that some may take exception to the fact that I'm taking 1st overall.

Keeping in mind that for us to see a game 7 here; two things have to happen:
- The series has to go to 7 games
- The Flames have to have home ice advantage.

So you could have somebody pick game 7 of the first round, and then that game doesn't happen. A few suggestions I would offer:
- Wait until the playoff matchups are set; or at least the Flames placement.
- It sounds like currently guys get pairs of tickets for games. What if people just went together? That way with 3 likely home playoff games, 6 of the 7 people each get to see a game.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Keeping in mind that for us to see a game 7 here; two things have to happen:

- The series has to go to 7 games

- The Flames have to have home ice advantage.



So you could have somebody pick game 7 of the first round, and then that game doesn't happen. A few suggestions I would offer:

- Wait until the playoff matchups are set; or at least the Flames placement.

- It sounds like currently guys get pairs of tickets for games. What if people just went together? That way with 3 likely home playoff games, 6 of the 7 people each get to see a game.

Great points.

I should have added that each draft pick will be per seat, not for the pair. So every ticket stays within the group.

I also figured out how to deal with the home ice advantage issue. I am treating any game 7 differently than the main draft. If we do have a game 7, I'm taking one of the seats and the other one is a random draw. So there's 3 games (6 tickets) up for draft in each round regardless of home ice and then game 7s are handled differently should they occur. 24 draft picks in all regardless of home ice advantage or not.

[blankall]

Are all the people in the pool friends enough to go to games together?

If so, I'd draw the tickets individually instead of in pairs.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by blankall

Are all the people in the pool friends enough to go to games together?

If so, I'd draw the tickets individually instead of in pairs.

Yes. This is exactly what we're doing.

[FireFly]

Flames sweep and there is no game 5 either.

I would do it one round at a time.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Flames sweep and there is no game 5 either.

I would do it one round at a time.

Good point I didn't think of a Flames sweep....damn

[DoubleF]

Instead of drawing specific games, why not just throw in all the names and draw a list of names? When a game comes up, the top name buys the ticket, but if unavailable, loses their spot on the list and gets sent to the bottom and the next name goes to the game (so on so forth). If someone really wants a game or may miss it, they can barter with each other to change the order (like a draft pick). Set a minimum standard of a case of beer or something to swap positions or something.

You of course get to insert your name wherever you want.

It eliminates the confusion of drawing a game and not being able to go to a game that doesn't exists due to the full amount of games not being played. This way, you draw/draft once and don't have to redo it each time. This also eliminates the confusion of someone getting a game 7 and doesn't get to go, but a guy getting game 1 of the next round (dreaming) getting to go.

The reason why I say choose an order of names vs games is because the schedule is uncertain vs a certain schedule for a full season. Reversing this order clears up that confusion... sorta.

[heep223]

Yes this is where I'm going. I'm going to essentially do a draw for all 32 possible tickets available. So for example the guy with the 14th ticket gets to go to the 7th home game, regardless of what round. The guy with the 22nd ticket gets to go to the 11th home game, regardless of round. Kind of a variation of what you're proposing.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by heep223

Yes this is where I'm going. I'm going to essentially do a draw for all 32 possible tickets available. So for example the guy with the 14th ticket gets to go to the 7th home game, regardless of what round. The guy with the 22nd ticket gets to go to the 11th home game, regardless of round. Kind of a variation of what you're proposing.

Ah gotcha. I must have misunderstood 7th game for a game 7 in a series or something like that.

Carry on.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Ah gotcha. I must have misunderstood 7th game for a game 7 in a series or something like that.



Carry on.

Nope, you interpreted it correctly...your way makes more sense! Thanks for the input

[remember2004]

You're going to jinx it. Hahahaha just kidding.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by remember2004

You're going to jinx it. Hahahaha just kidding.

Funny enough, nobody in our group wanted to mention anything about it for exactly this reason lol.

When I brought it up it was a mix of "dude! Wtf is wrong with you you're jinxing it" and "finally someone brought this up so we can talk about it!".