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Old 11-27-2014, 08:16 PM   #21
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Normally I don't care at all about those awards (probably because the Flames haven't had legitimate candidates in a long time, plus I hate the Eastern bias), but I'm really excited that people start to give credit to the Flames.
The article was written by Craig Button, he is probably more familiar with the Flames than anyone else outside the organization. I don't doubt Craig's rankings but I'm guessing fans of other teams would claim bias.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:40 PM   #22
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He's out. He's had two hits where he accidentally ran into someone.
I hope Johnny trains with Paul Byron this off-season, there both listed at 150 Lbs but Paul seems soo much stronger.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:59 PM   #23
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I hope Johnny trains with Paul Byron this off-season, there both listed at 150 Lbs but Paul seems soo much stronger.

If the Flames could combine the best of Byron with the best of Gaudreau the Flames would have one hell of a player.
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:29 PM   #25
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It really wasn't that long ago when you think about it; Iginla, Kiprusoff, and even Phaneuf were all contenders only a few years ago. Then consider a team like Edmonton that hasb't really even contended for a real award in 25 years (since Messier left). So if you put things in perspective the Flames have done pretty well in terms of award recognition.
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I get what you are saying, but you are setting the bar very Lowe.
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Old 11-28-2014, 08:53 AM   #26
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How shocking to see Garth Snow and Best GM in the same sentence, but you have to hand it to him this year, so far. Good thing its not a career award
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Old 11-28-2014, 08:58 AM   #27
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If the Hart was actually awarded based on "player judged most valuable to his team" then Giordano would unquestionably be the favourite right now. But that award hasn't been given to the most valuable player for years. If it was Tavares would have won in the lockout season, Varlamov would have won last year... etc.
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Old 11-28-2014, 09:29 AM   #28
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If they truly gave it to the most valuable player for his team, they'd have to stipulate it to be for a skater, since the goalie is MVP on the vast majority of teams. Pens, Flames, TB are exceptions that I can think of.

Of course, MVP's given out that way also penalize guys who have good or lucky GMs. It's not Crosby's fault he plays on a team with Malkin. It's not Doughty's fault Jonathan Quick is on his team.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:42 AM   #29
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If they truly gave it to the most valuable player for his team, they'd have to stipulate it to be for a skater, since the goalie is MVP on the vast majority of teams. Pens, Flames, TB are exceptions that I can think of.
That list is pretty easy to add to. Oilers, Sabres off the top of my head. Avalanche. Any team with two solid goalies like Minnesota.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:56 PM   #30
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That list is pretty easy to add to. Oilers, Sabres off the top of my head. Avalanche. Any team with two solid goalies like Minnesota.
Oilers and Sabres have no MVP, so they don't count. I agree on the dual goalie thing.
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