[News] Another slow start for Iginla

[FlamesAddiction]

I thought that he took the best of everything he could at the time.

Colorado was coming off a good season. He got paid money and received a longer deal. Plus he got to choose a region where his family wanted to live.

I think money played a roll, but it was a complete package for him.

Regardless, eventually all professional athletes hit the wall and most don't realize it right away, at least from stories that I have read.

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Everyone says this about him every year and he still finds a way to get going and put up 30 goals. I'm sure he'll go on a crazy hot streak pretty soon. I'm rooting for him as always. Go Iggy go!

I'm not rooting for him at all. His jersey says avalanche not flames and if he lights it up they could potentially take away our wild card spot. I hope he has a wonderful life, not in the playoffs, its our spot.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Most of that has to do with his last contract with the Flames being done prior to the shift to $8+ million for franchise players. If he was in his prime today he would be expecting $8-9 million for sure. Personally I don't have any issue with any player expecting market value but there are some who think he took hometown discounts with the Flames which is not really the case.

I don't think there was a home town discount. I remember coming out of the lockout in 2005, there was lots of discussion about Iginla being the best player in the league and his contract will be an important one to set the bar for the NHLPA. I think Iginla maximized his value which was in his and the NHLPA's best interests.

My comment was more a rebuttal to The Familia's inaccurate recollection.

[BurningSteel]

I like Jarome always have always will but he made a crap decision picking the avs which wasmaybe influenced by $$$. I also heard he wanted to play in a specefic geographical area more than anything else. Perhaps he has quietly given up on a cup.

[edslunch]

So how about that slow start? We've seen this movie before and he will likely crank it up and make people forget about it. But it always bugged me that he never got called out on it. How can someone so good and in a leadership position (with the Flames) be so bad for a quarter of the season? A quarter year of vintage Iginla can be the difference between playoffs or not (well maybe not with this Avs team).

[AcGold]

That's just his personality, he's a nice guy deep down and it takes a little adversity to get him playing with an edge that hasn't been natural for him most of his career.

[FlamesAddiction]

I seem to recall someone posting some stats before showing that Iginla's "slow start" wasn't as big as some make it out to be. I am way too lazy to try to find the post right now.

[You Need a Thneed]

With his "slow" start, he's on pace for 50 points, with the team as a whole underacheviing somewhat.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by AcGold

I'm not rooting for him at all. His jersey says avalanche not flames and if he lights it up they could potentially take away our wild card spot.

Before that can happen, the Flames will have to be in a wild card spot. As long as the team stays in the top 3 of the Pacific, nothing Colorado can do will knock them out.

Staying in that position won’t be easy, I admit. But it will be a lot easier for the Flames to stay in their present spot than for Colorado to pass 5 other teams just to get into the wild cards.

If Iginla should go on a mid-season tear and turn in another 30-goal finish, more power to him.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I seem to recall someone posting some stats before showing that Iginla's "slow start" wasn't as big as some make it out to be. I am way too lazy to try to find the post right now.

It was me.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...&postcount=263

Bear in mind that only goes back to 2011-2012, but Iginla is definitely slowing down compared to those numbers.

[goodyear]

Here's how I think it should play out

Flames make playoffs...trade Jones (who is probably coming off the IR for the 5th time this season) for Iginla at the deadline. Flames win cup. Iginla retires.

Or I win LottoMax this Friday.

Either or works for me.

[Azhouse]

If he wants to win a cup before he retires he is going about it the wrong way. One year deals with trades to contenders at the deadline ala Pittsburgh may be his only option at this point of his career. I'm afraid that a three year deal to Colorado is not going to get it done.

If he wants to make sure his kids get to practice on time he might as well pack up and move to Kelowna full time.

[shermanator]

Originally Posted by goodyear

Here's how I think it should play out

Flames make playoffs...trade Jones (who is probably coming off the IR for the 5th time this season) for Iginla at the deadline. Flames win cup. Iginla retires.

Or I win LottoMax this Friday.

Either or works for me.

Ewww no. I loved Iginla during his time here, but we have to move on. The Flames were only able to develop their current respected culture once they traded Iginla, so I don't want to see him anywhere near a Flames uniform until they are hanging it to the rafters.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by shermanator

Ewww no. I loved Iginla during his time here, but we have to move on. The Flames were only able to develop their current respected culture once they traded Iginla, so I don't want to see him anywhere near a Flames uniform until they are hanging it to the rafters.

Yeah. This is Giordano's team now and the early results are positive.

It would be hard to bring back Iginla and not fall back into old habits.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by The Familia

Let's be honest. Iginla has always been about the money throughout his career. I Don't recall him accepting anything leas than $7.5 million while he was here. He even held out once.

Really? His last three contracts with the Flames:

2 years, 13M ($6.5)
3 years, 21M ($7)
5 years, 35M ($7)

Even his contracts with Boston and the Avs

EDIT: BEATEN TO THE PUNCH!

1 year, 6M
3 years, 15M ($5)

You're wrong.

[gvitaly]

It looks like exactly the same start he had last year, while getting used to his new team. With Boston on Nov 26th in 24GP he scored 4G and recorded 13Pts. This year it is 3G and 14Pts in 23 games. Last year it ended with 30G and 61 Pts, so I think he will be fine.

Also, athletes are human, it takes time to get settled down in a new city; especially with a family. A lot is going on off the ice to add to the learning process associated with switching to a new team. As for the Iginla being greedy and doing it for the money, think about yourself when you are choosing a job:
-You want a job you will enjoy, and the situation in Colorado seemed to be a great environment last year.
-You want to succeed, and Colorado seemed to be as good as any team last year. Betting on who will win the cup is not the simplest task, just look at the betting odds to start the season (1/7, or 1/10 at best).
-You want to have some stability for your family, and not move every year.
-And of course, you want to get paid!

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Krack Korn

Oh that's complete bull#### AC. As much as I respect you, I cannot agree with that line of crap. I think most of us who follow hockey to any degree realized that the Aves were a mirage. Iggy made a mistake based on money. Not the first guy to do that.

I think there is a difference between chasing money, and not caring at all about money. Iggy clearly wasn't willing to play for league min. to simply have a shot, he clearly wanted some term and cash, as well as play for a team he thought had a choice, and I don't fault him at all for that, makes sense.

Where he made his mistake, I think is judging how close the Avs were (maybe, or maybe they'll bounce back (doubt it)). I think he's shown some fairly poor judgement on that front often, potentially even in Calgary with how close he thought we were in the past, to forcing Pittsburgh over Boston when we traded him. I think he's got fairly poor team needs / abilities judgement in my opinion. This was more about that IMO than chasing money.

[Azhouse]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Really? His last three contracts with the Flames:

2 years, 13M ($6.5)
3 years, 21M ($7)
5 years, 35M ($7)

Even his contracts with Boston and the Avs

EDIT: BEATEN TO THE PUNCH!

1 year, 6M
3 years, 15M ($5)

You're wrong.

Jarome Iginla RW Colorado Avalanche $83,825,000 career earnings

Ya you are right. He isn't in it for the money. I think what people here are saying is that they would rather see him take 3ish mil/ year on a one year with a contender. Does he really need another $15,000,000 or does he want a cup?

[Vinny01]

In a league where 1 out of 30 teams wins a cup why not try and get both. The Avs just won their division last year and are loaded at forward/center with star players 23 or younger. MacKinnon has the makings of elite superstar before 21. Also his buddy Tanguay plays on the team so i didn't think the Avs were a horrible choice. Their style of play is a bad for him though. Of the teams that Chased him perhaps the Canucks style would have fit him the best but glad he didn't ruin his legacy here by signing with them

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by The Familia

Let's be honest. Iginla has always been about the money throughout his career. I Don't recall him accepting anything leas than $7.5 million while he was here. He even held out once.