Looks like money. Say what you want about the lineup, but the best performers from the farm have been Jooris, Granlund, Ferland and then Baertschi. Seems Baertschi is destined to be headed back to the AHL if earned and never given is stuck to. I suspect we might see a trade made to make room for an extra player from the minors.
Like I said, I really like him. He seems to stick up for his teammates and like you said, seems like a great guy.
But I still think he plays soft. And it's more the fact that other forwards are stepping up and filling his spot better. Not like I care deeply one way or the other but I would not be sad to him go and will still cheer for him when he does come back because I do think he is here to stay. I just don't think it would be a big loss if another player took his spot.
Have we been watching the same player this season? He has been one of our most physical forwards. His strength in puck battles along the boards has been significant.
You don't want him back? You don't like how he plays? LOL. It feels like your comments are from someone who probably checks the stats from the game but doesn't watch.
He is exactly the type of player the Flames are trying to build their identity around. Young, big, quickily getting stronger, skilled, former 1st round pick who is a shootout specialist who we got for basically nothing.
One of the more ######ed comments I have recently read on this board. It'd take Colby in the team over a lot of players.
Jooris > Backlund at this point. Use Backlund as a shutdown and energy guy, Jooris is much better offensively.
Jooris is playing amazing hockey for his first 15 game stretch of the NHL but I don't think that is enough to discount Backlund's offensive abilities, he has more than a few seasons under his belt now and finished his last season at the highest level he's been at as a player.
Some absolutely amazing offensive instincts in this video showcased by Backlund (credit to AC as always) I can't wait till we get a 100 percent Backlund again.
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Jooris > Backlund at this point. Use Backlund as a shutdown and energy guy, Jooris is much better offensively. Keep the creative guys together; Monahan, Gaudreau, Hudler, Jooris, Byron and Baertschi should all be together as much as possible.
LOL what? Is this CP's night on the meth? Jooris has had a few cracker games and can score some goals, but I think it's quite a stretch to judge him as a better offensive player than a fully healthy Backlund.
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Jooris > Backlund at this point. Use Backlund as a shutdown and energy guy, Jooris is much better offensively.
Absolutely not. I try not to be an ***hole these days, but are you friggin kidding me?
I know what's happening right now is exciting, but you seriously have Backlund as being demoted to a shutdown/energy guy when he comes back? Please tell me that isn't serious so we can forget this whole thing happened.
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As Monahan and Granlund have played well defensively it leads me to think Backlund could be a trade chip. I could see a few players getting sent down and management making a few trades or moves to free up spots. Jooris and Granlund deserve to stay and if Sven keeps it up he has a shot as well
Keep in mind Jooris has had his offensive success in scattered games, and as an energy guy, which means against lesser lines and defencemen. He can't do what Backlund can, not yet anyway.
Let's not put these kids into roles they will have trouble with. That's oiler thinking. Let them develop in the lower lines and move up.
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IMO Colborne will not be a physical guy insofar as big hits or being aggressive in scrums. I do think he will be physical as in good luck protection on the boards. I think he has the potential to be a Joe Thornton type player. At least he should pattern his game that way IMO.
As Monahan and Granlund have played well defensively it leads me to think Backlund could be a trade chip. I could see a few players getting sent down and management making a few trades or moves to free up spots. Jooris and Granlund deserve to stay and if Sven keeps it up he has a shot as well
You might be right about Backlund . Flames resigned Stajan to guide youngsters for the next couple of years. Have to think Backlund with his contract could have some value on the market. Hate to see him go if it does come down to it.
CP probably has to brace itself between now and summer. Someone like Backlund, Sven, granlund , Hudler ect will probably be traded if they are serious about getting a young top 4 dman back in trade. Sorry but the likes of jones , Setoguchi, Wideman ect will not get it done.
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I love Hudler, but I'd rather trade him than Backlund. His offence is much easier to replace than Backlund's two way game. If Sven progresses, he might replace Hudler. I'd really like to see what Backlund and Gaudreau could do. Backlund has a high hockey IQ and is defensive enough to make up for JG's defensive problems (good with the stick but can't compete physically).
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Have we been watching the same player this season? He has been one of our most physical forwards. His strength in puck battles along the boards has been significant.
You don't want him back? You don't like how he plays? LOL. It feels like your comments are from someone who probably checks the stats from the game but doesn't watch.
He is exactly the type of player the Flames are trying to build their identity around. Young, big, quickily getting stronger, skilled, former 1st round pick who is a shootout specialist who we got for basically nothing.
One of the more ######ed comments I have recently read on this board. It'd take Colby in the team over a lot of players.
If I only checked his stats I would be pretty happy, no? 8 points in 11 games?
And using the word ######ed just shows you're an immature person who needs to go outside maybe for some fresh air and maybe check your blood pressure. you're getting worked up for nothing.
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I love Hudler, but I'd rather trade him than Backlund. His offence is much easier to replace than Backlund's two way game. If Sven progresses, he might replace Hudler. I'd really like to see what Backlund and Gaudreau could do. Backlund has a high hockey IQ and is defensive enough to make up for JG's defensive problems (good with the stick but can't compete physically).
Hudler is easy to replace? he drives our offence on most nights. He is easily the most skilled guy on our team not named Gaudreau and is one of the better 2-way players on our team.
I think Ferland will draw in the lineup next game if David Jones injury is really bad and he can't play. Ferland actually been good to go since last week but Hartley wants him to get some practice time first before he plays again.
As far as the lineup when everyone is healthy. I am afraid we will see Ferland going back to Adirondack, Sven Baerschi unfortunately and maybe Setoguchi and Granlund. I know Sven and Granlund are playing well and Ferland was good on his one game but Backlund, Stajan, Raymond and Colborne coming back soon. That's 4 healthy players so it means 4 players out of Calgary Flames roster. That's how it goes unfortunately unless the Flames make a move. First of all I do not hate Stajan but I would rather see Granlund in the lineup than him. I like speeds and I don't think we will get that speed from Stajan. Bollig is not going anywhere. As much as people hated him, i really think he can help. He is a small version of McGrattan who can skate better. Not saying we should get rid of Big Ern because he is still valuable to the Flames.
Arya, I agree that post would have been fine without the last sentence. However, I have come to expect this in the short time I've been here. One poster decided to privately email me to suggest I had a "man-crush" on a player.
We can all put forward points and disagree while being civil at the same time. We are not Oiler fans.
Hudler is easy to replace? he drives our offence on most nights. He is easily the most skilled guy on our team not named Gaudreau and is one of the better 2-way players on our team.
I agree about his skill. I base what I said on the type of players we have coming up - smallish skilled guys. I don't think we replace him right now, but JG, Sven, Bennett, Emile P. Are more like Hudler than Backlund. Granlund could be like Backlund, but I'm not sure.
I think Ferland will draw in the lineup next game if David Jones injury is really bad and he can't play. Ferland actually been good to go since last week but Hartley wants him to get some practice time first before he plays again.
As far as the lineup when everyone is healthy. I am afraid we will see Ferland going back to Adirondack, Sven Baerschi unfortunately and maybe Setoguchi and Granlund. I know Sven and Granlund are playing well and Ferland was good on his one game but Backlund, Stajan, Raymond and Colborne coming back soon. That's 4 healthy players so it means 4 players out of Calgary Flames roster. That's how it goes unfortunately unless the Flames make a move. First of all I do not hate Stajan but I would rather see Granlund in the lineup than him. I like speeds and I don't think we will get that speed from Stajan. Bollig is not going anywhere. As much as people hated him, i really think he can help. He is a small version of McGrattan who can skate better. Not saying we should get rid of Big Ern because he is still valuable to the Flames.
I would like to see what Ferland can do. We could use a power forward. I don't think Bollig skates better than McGrattan. Ern has improved his speed a lot and Bollig just looks like he struggles up the ice, bent over.
I don't see Gaudreau spending much time outside of the top6 in his career anymore.
I think the Flames coaching Staff Trust Glencross more than Raymond.
Jones has played well enough, it allows them to nurse Colborne back into the line up with less minutes.
Unless their play changes, I just don't see Byron, Jooris, or Granlund leaving the lineup.
And I really hope in the next 3 or 4 games Baertschi can force the issue so they have to move out bodies sooner. It's still a bit of a long shot but he has been heating up lately. If he can't pull it together this year, we might have to move him out because of waiver issues, and he could end up being someone else's Colborne.
If I only checked his stats I would be pretty happy, no? 8 points in 11 games?
And using the word ######ed just shows you're an immature person who needs to go outside maybe for some fresh air and maybe check your blood pressure. you're getting worked up for nothing.
I'm not worked up mate, there is no difference of opinion here. You either just don't watch hockey or are extremely inattentive.
