11-14-2014, 10:15 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Canucks facing the 28th best defensive team, on the second night of a back to back, with their back up in net. Oh yeah, the back up is Dubnyk.
And the Canucks can't score
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11-14-2014, 10:34 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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5-0 Coyotes. Klinkhammer tips it in.
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11-14-2014, 10:34 PM
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#23
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Formerly FlamesFaninChina
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thailand
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5 on 3 for the Coyotes to end the game too 
5-0!
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11-14-2014, 10:40 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Coyotes win 5-0. Dubnyk shuts out the Canucks.
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11-14-2014, 10:58 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Gagner with 2 assists and Dubnyk with a 35 save shutout. It's nice to see the Oilers don't permanently ruin their first round draft picks.
Dubnyk still does not have a regulation loss this season (in 4 starts). His GAA and SV% are now both better than Scrivens or Fasth.
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Turn up the good, turn down the suck!
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11-14-2014, 11:13 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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It must be like taking off a 200 pound backpack when you get traded from the Oil.
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11-15-2014, 03:30 AM
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#27
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey
I have no idea how that 2nd goal counted. That was a clear high stick, just an awful call. Also the 3rd goal may have been offside, but now it doesn't matter. This ones over. Time to move on.
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I have watched the replays and reviews of the goal from various video angles now a whole bunch of times, and this is absolutely not "clearly" the case. The original camera view of it looks good, and the referee is standing right to the side of the goal and in full view of Hanzel's tip. In short, he had the best view of everyone and called it a good goal. The available video angles don't provide enough information to overturn the original call, and it remains a good goal. The end result: Canucks fans are sad.
Last edited by Textcritic; 11-15-2014 at 03:32 AM.
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11-15-2014, 04:36 AM
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#28
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Interesting stat:
Iain MacIntyre @imacVanSun
Among goalies with at least 8 appearances, Ryan Miller's save rate of .902 is 28th in the NHL. But leads with 11 wins.
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11-15-2014, 09:19 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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That means Miller is not exactly stealing games.
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11-15-2014, 09:19 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I have watched the replays and reviews of the goal from various video angles now a whole bunch of times, and this is absolutely not "clearly" the case. The original camera view of it looks good, and the referee is standing right to the side of the goal and in full view of Hanzel's tip. In short, he had the best view of everyone and called it a good goal. The available video angles don't provide enough information to overturn the original call, and it remains a good goal. The end result: Canucks fans are sad.
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@sportsnetirf
After 2nd period interview with Hanzal he told me he didn't know how his second goal counted. #highstick #Canucks #Coyotes
I mean it didn't matter anyways and I realize the league gets things wrong from time to time, I know you guys have been screwed over(Gelinas-04), but to me that was no goal.
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Interesting stat:
Iain MacIntyre @imacVanSun
Among goalies with at least 8 appearances, Ryan Miller's save rate of .902 is 28th in the NHL. But leads with 11 wins.
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When Miller loses he loses big, but he also looks great in wins
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11-15-2014, 09:23 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey
When Miller loses he loses big, but he also looks great in wins
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Yeah. I was saying this to my Canuck fan friend. He's incredibly good in wins and waaaay below average in losses. That was why St Louis didn't want him anymore. He was great for quite a few games there too
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11-15-2014, 09:56 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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That did look like a clear highstick but the refs called it a goal and they didn't have a definitive view that could show a high stick. They need to get some cameras at ice level for high sticks. Basically impossible to tell from high up cameras so you're relying on the net cam not being blocked by the goalie.
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11-15-2014, 09:59 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey
When Miller loses he loses big, but he also looks great in wins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Yeah. I was saying this to my Canuck fan friend. He's incredibly good in wins and waaaay below average in losses. That was why St Louis didn't want him anymore. He was great for quite a few games there too
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Yes, goalies tend to look better in wins. But Miller's Dr. Jekyll isn't extraordinarily good:
In Miller's wins, his sv% is .930
In Hiller's wins, his sv% is .940
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11-15-2014, 10:00 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Yeah. I was saying this to my Canuck fan friend. He's incredibly good in wins and waaaay below average in losses. That was why St Louis didn't want him anymore. He was great for quite a few games there too
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930 save percentage in wins, 759 in losses. My guess would be that save percentage in wins is fairly average (914 is the average save percentage but winning goalies would likely be higher).
I think in the end Miller, like Hiller is a fairly average goalie at this point in their careers.
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11-15-2014, 10:23 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey
When Miller loses he loses big, but he also looks great in wins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Yeah. I was saying this to my Canuck fan friend. He's incredibly good in wins and waaaay below average in losses. That was why St Louis didn't want him anymore. He was great for quite a few games there too
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Similar to what Ken Dryden described as a 'bad team goalie' in The Game:
Was it Mike Palmateer of the Leafs that he used as an example? Dryden's point was that he could go out and steal a win on his own, but on other nights he would let in some softies but it didn't matter because bad teams are gonna Oil anyway.
St Louis, considering themselves to be legitimate contenders, would want no part of an inconsistent goalie.
Whereas Vancouver's expectations this year were a little more modest and the occasional bad game is easier to overlook.
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11-15-2014, 10:31 AM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Similar to what Ken Dryden described as a 'bad team goalie' in The Game:
Was it Mike Palmateer of the Leafs that he used as an example? Dryden's point was that he could go out and steal a win on his own, but on other nights he would let in some softies but it didn't matter because bad teams are gonna Oil anyway.
St Louis, considering themselves to be legitimate contenders, would want no part of an inconsistent goalie.
Whereas Vancouver's expectations this year were a little more modest and the occasional bad game is easier to overlook.
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Are they expecting that fit two more years after this?
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