11-05-2014, 12:50 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Yup, that's pretty solid money for a starting goaltender.
Just a shame that Fleury is a backup in disguise. 
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11-05-2014, 12:54 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Not surprised. This is the same GM who handed Cam Ward a massive contract after 1 good playoff run. I can't imagine Pens fans are happy with this.
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11-05-2014, 01:08 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hesla
What better options are there really ??
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Ramo for a 1st.
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11-05-2014, 01:12 PM
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#24
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Allan Walsh deserves every penny he gets from MA.
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11-05-2014, 01:14 PM
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#25
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Didn't expect that kind of term or dollars. Thought he'd be in line for 4 million MAX, over 3 years at the most.
Guy is not a top 10 goaltender in this league.
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11-05-2014, 01:18 PM
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#26
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
They went and signed him when he's playing very well EARLY IN THE SEASON.
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It isn't like the Pens don't already know what they have in Fleury. Another 10 or 20 or 50 games won't change what he is.
Problem is, there's no way a guy who has managed only three post-seasons with a save percentage above .900 out of eight is one I would sign a four-year deal for that kind of money.
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11-05-2014, 01:22 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
Guy is not a top 10 goaltender in this league.
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Good thing he's only being paid as a top 13 then.
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11-05-2014, 01:47 PM
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#28
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Where ever I'm told to be
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MAF's agent??
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11-05-2014, 01:49 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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He's an average starting goalie getting paid average starting rate for a 4 year deal. I think having him locked down for only 4 years is a win for Pittsburgh, who are they going to upgrade with in the next couple years?
Seems like a reasonable deal by Pittsburgh.
He's not a goalie that wins you the cup, but when you have Crosby and Malkin on your team you really just need an average goalie to have a shot, and he's an average goalie.
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11-05-2014, 01:50 PM
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#30
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Lifetime Suspension
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Take a look at the goalie market this summer for UFA's.
This was the right thing for the Penguins to do.
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11-05-2014, 02:09 PM
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#31
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#1 Goaltender
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Tough situation for the Penguins with The UFA crop...maybe they explored trade options but had nothing of value.
For quick fun, goalies who faced 1,500 or more even-strength shots over the past two years plus some Flames-related tenders - and we all know what happens to MAF's performance come playoff time. Adjusted save percentage is War-On-Ice's metric that accounts for shot location.
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11-05-2014, 02:33 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hesla
What better options are there really ??
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They could have had Hiller for a lot less if you look at what the market is paying for starting goaltenders. Fleury IMO is a 2nd tier starter in this league that's been fortunate to play behind a good team. This is the type of contract that gets people fired.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 11-05-2014 at 02:36 PM.
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11-05-2014, 02:34 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DOOM
Take a look at the goalie market this summer for UFA's.
This was the right thing for the Penguins to do.
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Ramo? Niemi?
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11-05-2014, 03:15 PM
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#34
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Ramo? Niemi?
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Ramo is not as good as Fleury and lacks NHL experience.
Niemi is the only starting goalie available next summer now, he may still re-sign in San Jose or the Penguins could of missed out on him if he made it to UFA. He's also not a clear upgrade on Fleury either.
Last edited by DOOM; 11-05-2014 at 03:18 PM.
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11-05-2014, 03:17 PM
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#35
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
They could have had Hiller for a lot less if you look at what the market is paying for starting goaltenders. Fleury IMO is a 2nd tier starter in this league that's been fortunate to play behind a good team. This is the type of contract that gets people fired.
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And letting a starting goalie walk with this summers crop of UFA goalies gets people fired much more quickly.
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11-05-2014, 03:23 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Rutherford is a terrible GM.
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11-05-2014, 03:42 PM
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#37
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Lifetime Suspension
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Seems like a lot of money for a guy with play-off issues in the past, especially with the big money they already have to pay for Crosby and Malkin.
But as others have stated what other options are/were there?
Ramo is a big step down, Niemi has questions of his own, Hiller was coming off vertigo and questions about his consistency as well.
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11-05-2014, 03:44 PM
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#38
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Baffling...
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11-05-2014, 04:08 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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It seems like a fine deal to me. There are 14 goalies in the league with a higher cap hit, and he's better than many of them. The term is the best part for them, as, they aren't locking him to a longer term deal. He's not to blame for the Pens last playoff run, maybe the previous two years, but considering their options I like this deal for them.
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11-05-2014, 04:23 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I'm not sure Ramo from the last half of the season onward is a "big step down". Save % was almost the same on a way weaker team.
Sure Fleury's been good the start of this year, but Ramo ain't been too shabby and IMO has some upward ceiling room.
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