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Old 09-24-2014, 02:04 PM   #21
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The Flames did change Conditioning Coaches this summer, from Rich Hesketh to Ryan van Asten...maybe that had some sort of effect on things/
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Old 09-24-2014, 02:34 PM   #22
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I think his point is that the teams should have greater control.

That way they can have direct control of what type of training is done.
Perhaps. But these guys walk out of garbage bag day and exit interviews with reams of paper suggesting what to eat, how to train, when to do what so they can be in shape for the next season.


There was some pretty interesting byplay in the commentary on ESPN's coverage of last night's Giants-Dodgers game. John Kruk was asking who wins a tiebreaker between Kansas City and Oakland, and the other two commentators ribbed him about how he was only asking so he'd know where to fly next week for the playoffs. They added that he shouldn't worry, and that ESPN staff would tell him where to go, when to be there, and how he'd arrive.

Kruk responded by saying "57-years-old, and I've never had to make a decision in my life."

That was a great joke made funnier by just how true it is. Most of the players already know what the team expects from them for summer fitness routines, and it would be shocking if coaches weren't checking up periodically. I don't think a summer camp would be of much benefit beyond what already exists, particularly given it encroaches on what little personal time the players get.
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Old 09-24-2014, 02:48 PM   #23
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Perhaps. But these guys walk out of garbage bag day and exit interviews with reams of paper suggesting what to eat, how to train, when to do what so they can be in shape for the next season.


There was some pretty interesting byplay in the commentary on ESPN's coverage of last night's Giants-Dodgers game. John Kruk was asking who wins a tiebreaker between Kansas City and Oakland, and the other two commentators ribbed him about how he was only asking so he'd know where to fly next week for the playoffs. They added that he shouldn't worry, and that ESPN staff would tell him where to go, when to be there, and how he'd arrive.

Kruk responded by saying "57-years-old, and I've never had to make a decision in my life."

That was a great joke made funnier by just how true it is. Most of the players already know what the team expects from them for summer fitness routines, and it would be shocking if coaches weren't checking up periodically. I don't think a summer camp would be of much benefit beyond what already exists, particularly given it encroaches on what little personal time the players get.
I didn't say I agreed with him (I don't BTW).
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I don't think it's up to fans. I get the question is just on opinion, but what part of the players lives are their own?
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^^I was watching that too and thought he was referring and jesting in part to married life.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:10 PM   #26
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I think in the Ken King thread, KK had it right, they need to change the types of workouts and have the private instructors work more closely with the team. Made sense to me. Since most of these injuries seems to be lower body.
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I understand that they deserve time off, but my work owns me for a full year and I only get 3 weeks off. If you don't make the post season you have 4 months off. Pretty big difference
Blame the owners if you must for the conditions of the contract.
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No. The team basically owns these guys from September to June. I think they deserve time off.
well put, this discussion is over.
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well put, this discussion is over.
Agreed. I thought at first you were replying to my post. lol
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:20 PM   #30
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I think what is happening is that a lot of players are training hard but it isn't always the type of training that a hockey player needs. In Colborne's interview, he talks of doing pilates along with his training. Iginla does yoga. I believe these stretching practices keep the player from tightening up their muscles which cause a lot of their problems.
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:28 PM   #31
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It would be nice if Junior CHL added an extra year so guys can stay for a while longer. guys like Poirier, Klimchuk don't seem physically ready at all.
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:38 PM   #32
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I understand that they deserve time off, but my work owns me for a full year and I only get 3 weeks off. If you don't make the post season you have 4 months off. Pretty big difference
Your work pays you throughout the full year. NHL players are paid on the 1st and 15th days of the months of the regular season.
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:41 PM   #33
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It would be nice if Junior CHL added an extra year so guys can stay for a while longer. guys like Poirier, Klimchuk don't seem physically ready at all.
Klimchuk is going back to junior. And wasn't Poirier hurt in junior last year and just wanted until the off-season for the surgery?
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