09-10-2014, 02:27 PM
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#21
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Well I was mostly trying to be facetious, but it is a little bothersome that this guy gets celebrated as much as he does when considering his past, and the fact that he has never shown any remorse for it.
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He is one of the greatest boxers and has had a very successful career. He does appear to have some significant mental and psychological issues though.
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09-10-2014, 02:42 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by SHOGUN
The thing is you clicked in a thread that has "Mike Tyson" in the title... At least he's congruent.. some thing you lack.
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Haha what? So I should only click on threads that include names of people I admire or am in agreement with? Guess I should stay out of all of the political threads with "Harper" in the title.
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09-10-2014, 02:44 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
When your list of bothersome people in the celebrity/athletice realm must be long.
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I'm not sure I understand your point. If this were a thread about Sean Connery reacting to an interviewer asking about his past history of violence against women, would his past history not be relevant, especially in response to people declaring how "awesome" he is?
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09-10-2014, 02:44 PM
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#24
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Mike Tyson is a loser. If he really wants to see a pos all he has to do is look into a mirror.
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I howled with laughter at hearing that he 'endorsed' Ford for mayor.
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09-10-2014, 02:46 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
He is one of the greatest boxers and has had a very successful career. He does appear to have some significant mental and psychological issues though.
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So what? If someone posts an interview with Graham James, wherein the reporter asks about his history molesting young boys, would it not be a bit tasteless if one of the posts was "Graham James is awesome," regardless of whether they're only referring to his record as a junior hockey coach?
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09-10-2014, 02:47 PM
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#26
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Haha what? So I should only click on threads that include names of people I admire or am in agreement with? Guess I should stay out of all of the political threads with "Harper" in the title.
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Don't care about his opinion... don't click threads about him.
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09-10-2014, 02:49 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by SHOGUN
Don't care about his opinion... don't click threads about him.
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Maybe "care about" was the wrong phrasing. I don't get the hero-worship of the guy.
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09-10-2014, 02:52 PM
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#28
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Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I'm not sure I understand your point. If this were a thread about Sean Connery reacting to an interviewer asking about his past history of violence against women, would his past history not be relevant, especially in response to people declaring how "awesome" he is?
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The point is you didn't/couldn't be bothered to ask what the poster thought was "awesome" about Tyson.
You jumped right to the "facetious" rapist comment.
I am also not sure why you think jokes about rape are funny.
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09-10-2014, 02:58 PM
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#29
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Good ol' rubecube, continuing to project his issues onto others...
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09-10-2014, 02:58 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
The point is you didn't/couldn't be bothered to ask what the poster thought was "awesome" about Tyson.
You jumped right to the "facetious" rapist comment.
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I couldn't be bothered because to me, there's nothing that great about Tyson that supercedes the ####tiness of him being a rapist. Put the name of any other famous, convicted rapist in the discussion and then add an "he's awesome" addendum to it and tell me it doesn't sound completely distasteful.
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I am also not sure why you think jokes about rape are funny.
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Yes, if there's anything my recent posting history suggests, it's that I think rape jokes are funny. Nailed me dead to rights. Nice to see you making use of of Chrome's new "Jump to Conclusions" add-on.
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09-10-2014, 02:59 PM
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#31
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Maybe "care about" was the wrong phrasing. I don't get the hero-worship of the guy.
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Hero-worship? He's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Much like Michael Jackson... who went through a lot of legal BS and trouble, you don't get why people worship MJ?
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09-10-2014, 03:02 PM
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#32
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Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by SHOGUN
Hero-worship? He's one of the greatest boxers of all time. Much like Michael Jackson... who went through a lot of legal BS and trouble, you don't get why people worship MJ?
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Well the one key difference being that MJ was never convicted (and no I that doesn't mean I don't think he did it). Really, if this was an interview with OJ, would you be like "Man, he's awesome. Great football player and Naked Gun was amazing?"
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09-10-2014, 03:02 PM
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#33
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I couldn't be bothered because to me, there's nothing that great about Tyson that supercedes the ####tiness of him being a rapist. Put the name of any other famous, convicted rapist in the discussion and then add an "he's awesome" addendum to it and tell me it doesn't sound completely distasteful.
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Are we supposed to forget or strike any and all achievements from the records because the person who accomplished the feats ended up doing or saying something wrong?
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09-10-2014, 03:03 PM
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#34
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I couldn't be bothered because to me, there's nothing that great about Tyson that supercedes the ####tiness of him being a rapist. Put the name of any other famous, convicted rapist in the discussion and then add an "he's awesome" addendum to it and tell me it doesn't sound completely distasteful.
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But you could be bothered to flippantly comment......
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Yes, if there's anything my recent posting history suggests, it's that I think rape jokes are funny. Nailed me dead to rights. Nice to see you making use of of Chrome's new "Jump to Conclusions" add-on.
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I opted for that instead of the condescending jerk add-on, although good to see that one works well too.
You know I actually agree with and have many of the same view as you, but to be honest your delivery is piss poor.
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09-10-2014, 03:03 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
Are we supposed to forget or strike any and all achievements from the records because the person who accomplished the feats ended up doing or saying something wrong?
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Is that what I said?
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09-10-2014, 03:04 PM
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#36
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Well I was mostly trying to be facetious, but it is a little bothersome that this guy gets celebrated as much as he does when considering his past, and the fact that he has never shown any remorse for it.
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I assume this is in reference to the rape charge. The only people who know what happened in that hotel room were Tyson and Washington. You don't know, I don't know.
The court of law does get it wrong on occasion. If you found yourself in the situation of being falsely accused and convicted, would you show remorse? I'd be screaming for justice from day one of the trial until my last day on earth, let alone apologize for something I never did.
Tyson believes he did nothing wrong that night. If he's wrong, then he's a monster. If he's right, then he got screwed. I don't understand how people on the outside-looking-in can be so certain of these things and passionately defend one side of the story. That's a blind faith in the justice system that i just don't have.
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09-10-2014, 03:07 PM
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#37
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
But you could be bothered to flippantly comment......
I opted for that instead of the condescending jerk add-on, although good to see that one works well too.
You know I actually agree with and have many of the same view as you, but to be honest your delivery is piss poor.
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This wasn't him flipping out because someone said he was a ####ty fighter. He flipped out because he got asked about his rape conviction which, as I mentioned, I don't believe he's ever shown any remorse for. And the response was "He's awesome." What kind of response does that deserve in your opinion? If I had said "He's a convicted rapist. He's not that awesome," do you think the rest of the crew here would've reacted any differently?
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09-10-2014, 03:10 PM
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#38
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Originally Posted by rubecube
This wasn't him flipping out because someone said he was a ####ty fighter. He flipped out because he got asked about his rape conviction which, as I mentioned, I don't believe he's ever shown any remorse for. And the response was "He's awesome." What kind of response does that deserve in your opinion? If I had said "He's a convicted rapist. He's not that awesome," do you think the rest of the crew here would've reacted any differently?
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He's never showed remorse because he has always stated he did not rape her.
The alleged victim in that case had already made a false accusation of rape once before, who says she didn't do it again?
And Mike Tyson IS awesome.
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09-10-2014, 03:10 PM
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#39
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Haha how you call dude a convicted rapist on live tv what kind of reaction was he expecting from crazy Tyson.
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09-10-2014, 03:11 PM
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#40
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Originally Posted by rubecube
This wasn't him flipping out because someone said he was a ####ty fighter. He flipped out because he got asked about his rape conviction which, as I mentioned, I don't believe he's ever shown any remorse for. And the response was "He's awesome." What kind of response does that deserve in your opinion? If I had said "He's a convicted rapist. He's not that awesome," do you think the rest of the crew here would've reacted any differently?
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I guess we will never know will we.
I am starting to see that it doesn't always matter what my/others opinion is........
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