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Old 09-08-2014, 08:32 AM   #21
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Interesting. I wonder if the Flames would sign Diaz and Brookbank both and run with 13F/8D?
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:32 AM   #22
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Think of the pairings this way if our ptos stay and if wideman/Smid could be moved for future parts.

Gio-Brodie
Russell-Diaz

Brookbank-Engelland
Potter

We could play with the top pairing in order to balance out the lhd and Rhd. More likely that wideman could be moved instead of Smid under this scenario.
Sorry, that would be one terribly undersized top 4 especially against Kings, Ducks, etc. And I don't think they're moving Smid (he stated himself he wants to be a part of this rebuild)

Wideman is a different story - experienced all around top 4 dman, former pairing mate with Chara - I'd be surprised if he survives the 2015 deadline.
To me, the ideal scenario (besides of trading Wideman for a pick or prospect, retaining part of his salary) would be if Wotherspoon cracked the lineup - he's got all the tools needed (and a good frame)
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:32 AM   #23
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It is a tryout... Gives the team two different looks for the 7th D - a physical guy (Brookbank) and a puckmover (Diaz).
Also, if a young guy plays well enough to be a regular in the top 6, then they can find ways to make room, but it means any young player has to earn that spot. Wotherspoon looked good in limited time, but wouldn't he benefit more from playing more mins/better situations in the AHL, in terms of his long term development? and Sieloff needs way more gametime under his belt before he is seen as anything more than a short term callup.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:33 AM   #24
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Wideman is 6' and 200lbs

Diaz is 5'11 and 197lbs

Yes Wideman plays a tougher game with his hip checks but they are a similar size.
Jay Bouwmeester is 6-4 215 Brent Seabrook is 6-3 221

They are the same size.

Seabrook plays a tougher game.


Who do you think every goalie in the NHL would rather have on their team?
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:49 AM   #25
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Who do you think every goalie in the NHL would rather have on their team?
The player with the higher RGI.
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I prefer Diaz to Potter
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:24 AM   #27
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Big shot - could help the PP. I like him more as a #7 dman as opposed to a regular player - but interesting name to add.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:29 AM   #28
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Just as long as our defense this year is not...swiss cheese!
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Gio-Brodie
Russell-Diaz
Brookbank-Engelland
Potter
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:14 AM   #30
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It's all about accumulating assets. We are rebuilding, not adding pieces for a playoff run. If Hartley and Treliving think that that someone like Diaz or Brookbank can be worked with and either turned into a tradable asset or make another player expendable; then great... let them tryout.

These guys are still reasonably young and have had some successes in the NHL. These are the types of gambles we should be taking.
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:22 AM   #31
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Interesting to see if he can come in and make this team. Not sure how to feel about it though.

The first thing i thought about was this



and am now having bad Denis Gauthier flashbacks.
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:27 AM   #32
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^ yikes! Terrible pass, shouldn't have been made. The hit was dirty none the less.

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Old 09-08-2014, 10:46 AM   #33
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Is he notorious for those passes or is this a one off sort of thing?
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:31 AM   #34
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Seems strange to me that so many people are so anti-Russell. I thought he was great last year and seemed like most people saw him as one of the best defensemen on the team. Yet several people here are suggesting getting rid of him and keeping Diaz instead.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:33 AM   #35
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I asked a friend out in Montreal for the low down on him. Basically he had a really good first season and it has been all down hill from there.

Apparently he has made those types of plays on more than one occasion.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:34 AM   #36
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Seems strange to me that so many people are so anti-Russell. I thought he was great last year and seemed like most people saw him as one of the best defensemen on the team. Yet several people here are suggesting getting rid of him and keeping Diaz instead.
I don't see anyone here who is anti-Russell.

He's definitely one of our better defensemen.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:54 AM   #37
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I don't see anyone here who is anti-Russell.

He's definitely one of our better defensemen.
Not only Russell but Wideman. I wouldn't trade either for Diaz. Stepping backwards for sure. I mean it's not like we're in cap trouble.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:55 AM   #38
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Nothing wrong with Russell. He's just the smallest defenceman on a small defence corps. I'd like us to get bigger so Russell is a player that gets targeted. If we can get bigger and meaner and still keep Russell, that would be okay too.
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Seems strange to me that so many people are so anti-Russell. I thought he was great last year and seemed like most people saw him as one of the best defensemen on the team. Yet several people here are suggesting getting rid of him and keeping Diaz instead.
Also seeing lots of people choosing him as a "Bust" in that other thread. I don't get it either.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:54 PM   #40
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I just hope they don't sign both Diaz and Brookbank. Choose one and send Potter to the AHL.
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