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Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Pho,
I didn't think you'd discussing our company's matter on a public forum. If you were worried about your reputation before you should really be worried now.
I expect your resignation letter on my desk at 7:15 am tomorrow morning and I still expect to see you at the golf tourny.
There are always last minute plans that come along when you least expect it, there's nothing you can do about it so the boss should understand, but you should just be honest with him and tell him your not really into golf much and would consider going to the next social gathering that interests you.
What's he going to do? Harass you in front of other coworkers because you didn't want to go do something you don't like playing, that's one helluva s*** manager if you ask me.
As someone who's planned stuff before and Boss/job factors aside, yes you are being an inconsiderate a-hole
6 weeks ago, you said yes
1 week ago, you changed your mind and said no
Nothing is more irritating planning stuff and people stringing you along saying that they'd go, only to bail on you last minuteish. Especially if money was involved in reserving tee time.
Correct me if you're a regular golfer but dont Golf course reservations typically ask for about $100 per person? It could be more pricier at a reputable course. He probably paid for it when he got your confirmation 6 weeks ago and he likely wont be getting that back when you gave him your 1 week decision change. That probably was part of why he was a bit irritated
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As someone who's planned stuff before and Boss/job factors aside, yes you are being an inconsiderate a-hole
6 weeks ago, you said yes
1 week ago, you changed your mind and said no
Nothing is more irritating planning stuff and people stringing you along saying that they'd go, only to bail on you last minuteish. Especially if money was involved in reserving tee time.
Correct me if you're a regular golfer but dont Golf course reservations typically ask for about $100 per person? It could be more pricier at a reputable course. He probably paid for it when he got your confirmation 6 weeks ago and he likely wont be getting that back when you gave him your 1 week decision change. That probably was part of why he was a bit irritated
Not only that but he has probably planned four somes or groups that will play together and now has to rejuggle all of that.
The part where you said " I have to be in the mood for them" stood out for me too. That really did make it sound like it is all about you.
Wouldn't he have to juggle teams if someone called in sick or got an injury?
I would say go to the event ONLY BECAUSE YOU ORIGINALLY AGREED TO GO... I always honour my commitments whether I want to or not. But I don't think companies have a right to negatively affect career aspirations because someone doesn't go to after hours functions. I've seen incompetent people promoted because they agreed to play for the company hockey team while skilled workers get looked over. Should we all be going to hockey practice to get ahead?
Wouldn't he have to juggle teams if someone called in sick or got an injury?
I would say go to the event ONLY BECAUSE YOU ORIGINALLY AGREED TO GO... I always honour my commitments whether I want to or not. But I don't think companies have a right to negatively affect career aspirations because someone doesn't go to after hours functions. I've seen incompetent people promoted because they agreed to play for the company hockey team while skilled workers get looked over. Should we all be going to hockey practice to get ahead?
Getting along with and being liked by your co workers is a very important aspect of getting promoted. If people like you, they will likely follow you. Being the outcast sitting in the corner and ignoring company functions does't bode well for anyones career. It is just the politics of the workplace. No different than showering, grooming, dressing nice, and buying the odd coffee for the boss.
I have seen people that have all the skills and knowledge in the world, but would never make an effective leader or manager, because nobody likes them, and nobody would ever do what they ask. On the flip side, I have seen the complete reverse, where people will follow their leader like Khan's clan from Star Trek II regardless of the stupidity of their instructions, because they are likeable. And that guy is usually a massive success, because he is smart enough to take smelly I comb my hair with a stick Steve's ideas, and implement them as his own.
It's not always fair, but in most cases, to move up, you have to play the game.
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Being able to give up your evening hours doesn't determine if you are likeable or not. I worked with a great guy that bent over backwards to help people, especially the new employees trying to get settled.... very productive employee... but he had to be home by 6pm every night as his father in law suffered from dementia and had to have someone with him 24 hours a day and his wife worked evenings.
Your boss sounds a little weird but I get where he's coming from. If you didn't want to go you shouldn't have said yes to the invite. That's on you. That being said, you have to sacrifice every now and then and a few hours with your coworkers isn't going to kill you.
Out of curiosity, do you actually have a family birthday to attend? That seems like something you'd have known about in advance.
I think your boss sounds like a great guy actually. He wants to make sure you head to a company golf day, and is willing to give you paid time off for what sounds like a fictitious family birthday. I don't think that you have damaged your reputation, but if you are lying to get out of a social function at work then you could.
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While the boss seems lime he could be a bit more tactful in his approach,id say this stems from you saying yes six weeks ago. These corporate golf tournaments aren't cheap, having people back out is annoying and costly, backing out with not great reasons even more so.
As for the reputation, I guess that depends on the boss. He could brush it off, it is just a staff golf day after all, or he could see this as an example that you're not 'committed to the team' and aren't reliable, or something in the big area between.
Take a step back, take a breath, and think with a clear head.
Work is paying for you to golf, I assume as a team building exercise. Honestly what is so horrible about that? Do not leave early, do not sulk, simply go to the event and get some fresh air and have fun.
You are complaining and saying that 4 hours is your whole night, so what? I'm sure you have wasted more time for something that is less constructive. Use the time to get to know the people who you spend 8 hours a day with. Talk to your bosses, put in some face time because you never know when it will come in handy.
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That, and Im just not a big fan for staff get togethers (I have to be in the mood for them), especially if theyre not during company hours. Want me to go? Make it during work hours or have it at a venue that interests me.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but this comment makes you sound like a difficult person to work with. I highly doubt work asks you to give up your personal time very often, and more than likely when they do they pay for you to attend the event.
You are really giving off the impression that you hate your job. If you are giving that impression to strangers imagine what the people who spend 8 hours a day with you think.
Also I just looked back at your previous posts, because something didn't feel right.
You won an Xbox One at a staff party, and tried to sell it here. You were looking for a place to rent a room/hall, but complained that your boss was a cheap ass. I don't know man, it just seems like you might need either an attitude adjustment or a new job.
I doubt the golf thing killed your reputation because from the sounds of it this most likely isn't really the first run in that you and your boss have had.
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I think planning work events, which don't involve a guest, are a stupid idea outside of regular work hours and an employee should be able to pull the plug anytime they want. But in your situation were your boss really wants you there just go, whatever, I know it sucks.
Thank god our golf tourneys are always on working Fridays .
Also I just looked back at your previous posts, because something didn't feel right.
You won an Xbox One at a staff party, and tried to sell it here. You were looking for a place to rent a room/hall, but complained that your boss was a cheap ass. I don't know man, it just seems like you might need either an attitude adjustment or a new job.
I doubt the golf thing killed your reputation because from the sounds of it this most likely isn't really the first run in that you and your boss have had.
why do you even work there you seem like you're the problem not your boss imo
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