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Old 07-16-2014, 09:11 AM   #21
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Quite common for male super-heroes to be feminized. She-Hulk, Super Girl, Bat Girl, Spider Woman, Rescue (Iron Man), Shuri (Black Panther). "Male" Thor probably will return soon.

Previously, there was Thor Girl:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Girl
http://marvel.com/universe/Thor_Girl
I think the one difference between this change and the characters listed above is that they're all separate and distinct characters. They exist in the same universe as the male versions and have different backgrounds and motivations. From what I gather, they're simply changing male Thor to a woman. Which then begs the question why?

We all know that male Thor will be back within a year. Can you really establish a strong female character this way? If she's just going to be written off in a year then what's the point? Maybe they could have used this opportunity to promote strong existing female characters within Marvel like Storm, Ms Marvel, Black Widow etc.

I don't know. Again, I am cool with this change but I can't help but think it's all just a marketing gimmick rather than Marvel genuinely wanting to create a strong female character.
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And the Captain just outed himself as a "Pegging Enthusiast."
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I think the one difference between this change and the characters listed above is that they're all separate and distinct characters. They exist in the same universe as the male versions and have different backgrounds and motivations. From what I gather, they're simply changing male Thor to a woman. Which then begs the question why?
Are you sure about that? I read yesterday that the new Thor will be an existing Marvel character (they wouldn't reveal who; my guess is Sif) who is judged worthy to wield Thor's hammer.

I suspect you're correct that this is a marketing gimmick, and I think it's going to play out as follows:

1. Current Thor does something to make himself unworthy.
2. New Thor picks up the hammer and assumes his role for about a year or so.
3. Old Thor has a special edition series in which he redeems himself and becomes Thor again.
4. Having gained popularity over a year (Marvel hopes), female Thor then gets her own spin-off book with a new character name.
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:55 AM   #24
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Are you sure about that? I read yesterday that the new Thor will be an existing Marvel character (they wouldn't reveal who; my guess is Sif) who is judged worthy to wield Thor's hammer.

I suspect you're correct that this is a marketing gimmick, and I think it's going to play out as follows:

1. Current Thor does something to make himself unworthy.
2. New Thor picks up the hammer and assumes his role for about a year or so.
3. Old Thor has a special edition series in which he redeems himself and becomes Thor again.
4. Having gained popularity over a year (Marvel hopes), female Thor then gets her own spin-off book with a new character name.
Not sure at all. I had just read some quotes that indicated this would be "Thor" and not Thor Girl. But you're probably right and what you've listed is exactly what I expect to come from this.

This woman isn't happy with the change and after reading what she wrote, I can't say I disagree with her.

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This ISN'T HOW YOU REACH OUT TO WOMEN, MARVEL. MAKE NEW FEMALE CHARACTERS THAT DON'T SUCK HOW ABOUT THAT. We have been complaining for YEARS about genderbent side-characters, like the only way to make a girl hero popular is for her to be "Super"girl or "Spider"girl or Hulkette or Miss Wolverine, when are you going to get it through your skulls that the way to get us to respect you is to make actual real new characters? You slate Black Widow and Storm and then you give us a reskin of a male character! What the f***? Isn't the fact that this is the wrong way common knowledge at this point? To the point where even you yourself shy away from using it as an example? F***'s sake.

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And the Captain just outed himself as a "Pegging Enthusiast."

Captain of the Whitehorse......?
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And the Captain just outed himself as a "Pegging Enthusiast."
Pegging? should I google that at work?
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Pegging? should I google that at work?
I wouldn't.
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This is interesting...might actually read Thor, now.
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Old 07-16-2014, 12:20 PM   #30
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I have a few Marvel/Avengers fanboy friends and they are pretty pissed at the change. They feel it's more for PC reasons than anything else. They are now awaiting a gay Captain America and Punjabi Hulk.

I don't know much about it but I think it's silly, especially as the character is based off a clearly male Norse God.
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Too late, they already made Green Lantern gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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I wonder if they'd ever risk putting her in a movie. I am still unconvinced that a super-heroine has ever been done justice in a movie. Catwoman, Elektra, Storm, Supergirl, Sue Storm, Aeon Flux, all total garbage. Can it even be done? There are some slight exceptions like Black Widow and Mystique I suppose, but they obviously weren't leads in those movies.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Wonder Woman is actually given her own franchise. Heck they didn't even end up going through with the Wonder Woman television show, and now every DC hero has their own property (and she's left out in the cold).
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2 pages in an no a hammer jokes yet?! Feel shame CP, feel Shame.
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2 pages in an no a hammer jokes yet?! Feel shame CP, feel Shame.
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I have a few Marvel/Avengers fanboy friends and they are pretty pissed at the change. They feel it's more for PC reasons than anything else. They are now awaiting a gay Captain America and Punjabi Hulk.
Speaking of Captain America:
http://mashable.com/2014/07/17/marve...will-be-black/
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:38 AM   #37
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Yep. The Falcon's taking over the suit. The interwebz had predictably melted down over it. =/
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That isn't the first time either. I believe Isiah Bradley was Captain America for a time. I'd say the big difference is that "Thor" isn't a mantle, it's a person's name. Did people complain when Winter Soldier took over as Cap? A more comparable situation would be for Marvel to take a black character and say "this is Steve Rogers." Not that I have a problem with it, but maybe people of those demographics want more than She-Thor or Black Captain America.
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I guess the little girl from Adventures in Babysitting has grown up?
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Here's a shot of the Avengers with all the updated characters. I didn't realize they made Deathlok look like the TV version.

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