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Old 07-10-2014, 02:01 PM   #21
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Don't really like OT, but it will probably mean more will end that way vs the shootout. I'd rather see 10 minutes of 4-4. I feel like most games would get solved before the end. Maybe they could switch to 3 at 5 minutes if they wanted.
Yes, the OT change looks like it is intended to get more games settled by non-shootout goals. I'm OK with that.
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Old 07-10-2014, 03:42 PM   #22
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Yes, the OT change looks like it is intended to get more games settled by non-shootout goals. I'm OK with that.
Agreed, but I think this is treating a symptom of the disease. The reason games go to a shootout is because there is generally a better chance of winning during that than there is of winning in OT by potentially risking a chance against. And so once in overtime, it's only a 5 minute trip until the shootout. If I was a coach I'd be telling my team to rag the puck until the shootout too (depending on your opponent). It's the points system that causes games to go to shootout.

The reason you see much more exciting OT in the playoffs than the regular season is because the players just want to get it done as fast as they can. No point in holding anything abck if you walk away with nothing when you lose anyways. There should be no points for losing ever.
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if 9.6 had been in effect in 2004 we would not have had this

Too soon...
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I still don't like the 3-player shootout. It basically gave teams no chance of coming back if they miss the first shot.
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:56 PM   #25
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Agreed, but I think this is treating a symptom of the disease. The reason games go to a shootout is because there is generally a better chance of winning during that than there is of winning in OT by potentially risking a chance against. And so once in overtime, it's only a 5 minute trip until the shootout. If I was a coach I'd be telling my team to rag the puck until the shootout too (depending on your opponent). It's the points system that causes games to go to shootout.

The reason you see much more exciting OT in the playoffs than the regular season is because the players just want to get it done as fast as they can. No point in holding anything abck if you walk away with nothing when you lose anyways. There should be no points for losing ever.
Here's a more radical solution to the overtime/shootout issue. If there is a tie at the end of regulation, the game ends and neither team gets a point. It would make for a barn-burning third period as a tie would be an unacceptable outcome. Perhaps this line of reasoning explains why I don't have Bettman's job.
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Here's a more radical solution to the overtime/shootout issue. If there is a tie at the end of regulation, the game ends and neither team gets a point. It would make for a barn-burning third period as a tie would be an unacceptable outcome. Perhaps this line of reasoning explains why I don't have Bettman's job.
I sure would like to see a game played with this logic. So many games lack a real effort by many players.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:54 PM   #27
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The overtime one seems dumb to me. The whole 3 on 3 thing following the first whistle after 3 minutes seems like something I would have done while playing street hockey.
I remember thats how we settled overtime in atom. In fact that is exactly how my team won conference finals that year, three on three with the goalie pulled, have to score from inside the blue line.
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Old 07-11-2014, 04:13 PM   #28
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3 on 3 is not ideal, but it's better than the shootout, and it dramatically reduces the number of shootouts. The AJHL does 4 on 4, then 3 on 3, then shootout. Only one team had more than six shootouts last year (in a 60 game season), the average was four, and a couple had only one. In the NHL last year, only one team had less than seven shootouts, and the average was 12.
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The 4 on 4 in overtime is possibly the most entertaining 5 minutes in the regular season of any professional sport. Add another 5 minutes and you eliminate 90% of all shootouts. Even better, add 5 more minutes and ditch the shootout altogether - a point a piece after 10 minutes. No gimmicks, and more entertainment.
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3 on 3 is not ideal, but it's better than the shootout, and it dramatically reduces the number of shootouts. The AJHL does 4 on 4, then 3 on 3, then shootout. Only one team had more than six shootouts last year (in a 60 game season), the average was four, and a couple had only one. In the NHL last year, only one team had less than seven shootouts, and the average was 12.
I really enjoy the 3-3 in the AJ. I like the penalty shot on a call 3-3 as well.
The shootout NHL novelty, if one was ever a fan, has long worn off.
With the skill level at the NHL, 3-3 would be something to see.
I agree - it's not ideal, but it's way better.
And no, there will never again be tied games in the NHL.
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