07-01-2014, 02:21 PM
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#21
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: KenKingsinton
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I really think the most important thing I'm reading is "Term important. 3 years or less on all contracts." It's refreshing to hear that, we'll see how long it lasts. The biggest issue in the NHL is longer term contracts for middling players, something that occurs significantly less frequently in other sports. Of course, this is also a league where GMs think they should sign players for 13 years, so there you go.
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07-01-2014, 02:22 PM
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#22
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Ya that made me feel much better about the signing. Usually when GM's sign these ridiculous contracts they spew the koolaid when reasoning why. Nice to see Treliving simply put that while the price is high, he's a guy they wanted and were under no cap constraints so the dollar amount wasn't a big issue
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Atleast they kept all their signings 3 years and under compared to the rest of the league where 4-5 year contracts are being handed out like candy (Pouliot, Orpik, Bolland).
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07-01-2014, 02:28 PM
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#23
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Edmonton burn at the end lol
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07-01-2014, 02:28 PM
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#24
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Perth Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shogged
Edmonton burn at the end lol
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What was said?
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07-01-2014, 02:29 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shogged
Edmonton burn at the end lol
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07-01-2014, 02:32 PM
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#26
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Not looking for a young player to be our saviour
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07-01-2014, 02:33 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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So the current roster looks like
Glencross-Backlund-Hudler
Raymond-Stajan-Jones
Gaudreau/Baertschi-Monahan-Colborne
Bouma-Knight-Mcagratten
Extras- Bollig, Reinhart, Wolf, Granlund
Bennett also possible
Giordano-Brodie
Russell-Wideman
Smid-Engellend
Wortherspoon
Hiller
Ramo
That roster is in McDavid territory. I suspect the flames make a couple deals before oct 1 or that is an ugly roster
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07-01-2014, 02:34 PM
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#28
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shogged
Edmonton burn at the end lol
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07-01-2014, 02:35 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Dover
Love that Treliving doesn't shy away from the truth, agrees that they overpaid for Engelland, but with the flexibility they have and the leadership/character he brings to the lineup, they were willing to pay that price.
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Yeah same here, I think they paid way too much, but at least they recognized they did and gave a reason...... some how makes me feel a little better.
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07-01-2014, 02:39 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
So the current roster looks like
Glencross-Backlund-Hudler
Raymond-Stajan-Jones
Gaudreau/Baertschi-Monahan-Colborne
Bouma-Knight-Mcagratten
Extras- Bollig, Reinhart, Wolf, Granlund
Bennett also possible
Giordano-Brodie
Russell-Wideman
Smid-Engellend
Wortherspoon
Hiller
Ramo
That roster is in McDavid territory. I suspect the flames make a couple deals before oct 1 or that is an ugly roster
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Just looking at that i feel like we have some trades to make still.
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07-01-2014, 02:40 PM
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#31
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Fan960 now cutting out online, again. Between that and the Flames website unable to stream the availability, pretty poor showing electronic media wise.
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07-01-2014, 02:46 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Overall, I'd say exactly what needed to happen today:
Broadly, kept roster spot potential for young players, addressed cap floor situation (leaving enough flexibility if we need to trade Wideman too), kept terms short for stop-gap players as to not hamstring us in a few years, added veteran leadership on a young, rebuilding team, filled holes in roster from outgoing players.
Hiller - great signing. Provides some competition for Ramo, which is important.
Raymond - also a great signing. Fills a hole in offense, adds to team speed and contract is short. He seems like he reeeeally wants to be a flame. That might motivate him to step up to a new level on this short contract if he wants to stick around longer.
Engelland - fills a need for 5/6 right-handed defense. Adds size, toughness, and it seems most importantly good locker room leadership. Yeah, a bit of money, but it is not that relevant as the term is fairly short and we have oodles of cap space. The only reason to be concerned with an overpayment is that it can hamstring a team for the future. This doesn't, so it's not a problem.
We need signings like these to keep us from going full-Oiler and build properly for the future.
Solid B+/A- for the day.
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07-01-2014, 02:49 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by goodyear
Did Brad say anything about Byron?
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He was asked on The Fan after his presser.
They are still interested in bringing him back. They have made an offer and are still talking to his agent. It's still possible that something gets done.
The reason they didn't give him a QO was because he could have gone to arbitration and they felt his case would have been strong for a reward they may not have wanted to take on.
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07-01-2014, 02:51 PM
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#34
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Draft Pick
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Langley, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
Fan960 now cutting out online, again. Between that and the Flames website unable to stream the availability, pretty poor showing electronic media wise.
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Head over to tunein radio, the stream is much better
http://tunein.com/radio/Sportsnet-960-The-FAN-s31110/
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07-01-2014, 02:56 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Treliving also confirms that they have moved on from Butler and Westgarth and the rest of the former Flames who went to UFA.
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07-01-2014, 02:59 PM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Gaudreau - Monahan - Colborne
Raymond - Backlund - Jones/Granlund
Bouma/Bollig - Reinhart - McGrattan
Wolf
Giordano - Brodie
Russel - Smid
Wideman - Engelland
Wotherspoon
Ramo
Hiller
My guess as to the rough roster come september. Thinking we might deal Wideman before then, though.
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07-01-2014, 03:19 PM
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#38
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Could the Engellend signing be similar to when good call Bobby Boughner was signed during the dark ages? I thought they overpaid at the time but he became an important leader and fan favourite.
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07-01-2014, 03:25 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Hopefully we can still sign Vrbata. Trade D. Jones to Buffalo.
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07-01-2014, 03:27 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I won't lie between the draft and now I figured the flames would have made a fairly substantial trade.
Losing Cammy replacing him with Raymond, and replacing Butler with Engellend does not really improve the team in my opinion. Adding Hiller was a very solid move and contract.
Where the flames are at today I am definitely Italy thinking they take a step back. I also feel Bennett will have more than a small chance to make the team if the forward group is not upgraded. Sven, Johnny, Reinhart, and Granlund also will get a real look.
The team will be in the mix to add another high end prospect next summer and hopefully take a step towards competing because right now they still are built to suck
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