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		|  07-01-2014, 02:21 PM | #21 |  
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			I really think the most important thing I'm reading is "Term important. 3 years or less on all contracts."  It's refreshing to hear that, we'll see how long it lasts.  The biggest issue in the NHL is longer term contracts for middling players, something that occurs significantly less frequently in other sports.  Of course, this is also a league where GMs think they should sign players for 13 years, so there you go.
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:22 PM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda  Ya that made me feel much better about the signing. Usually when GM's sign these ridiculous contracts they spew the koolaid when reasoning why. Nice to see Treliving simply put that while the price is high, he's a guy they wanted and were under no cap constraints so the dollar amount wasn't a big issue |  
Atleast they kept all their signings 3 years and under compared to the rest of the league where 4-5 year contracts are being handed out like candy (Pouliot, Orpik, Bolland).
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:28 PM | #23 |  
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			Edmonton burn at the end lol
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:28 PM | #24 |  
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:29 PM | #25 |  
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:32 PM | #26 |  
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			Not looking for a young player to be our saviour
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:33 PM | #27 |  
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			So the current roster looks like
 Glencross-Backlund-Hudler
 Raymond-Stajan-Jones
 Gaudreau/Baertschi-Monahan-Colborne
 Bouma-Knight-Mcagratten
 Extras- Bollig, Reinhart, Wolf, Granlund
 Bennett also possible
 
 Giordano-Brodie
 Russell-Wideman
 Smid-Engellend
 Wortherspoon
 
 Hiller
 Ramo
 
 
 That roster is in McDavid territory. I suspect the flames make a couple deals before oct 1 or that is an ugly roster
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:34 PM | #28 |  
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:35 PM | #29 |  
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					Originally Posted by Ben Dover  Love that Treliving doesn't shy away from the truth, agrees that they overpaid for Engelland, but with the flexibility they have and the leadership/character he brings to the lineup, they were willing to pay that price. |  
Yeah same here, I think they paid way too much, but at least they recognized they did and gave a reason...... some how makes me feel a little better.
		 
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:39 PM | #30 |  
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					Originally Posted by Vinny01  So the current roster looks like
 Glencross-Backlund-Hudler
 Raymond-Stajan-Jones
 Gaudreau/Baertschi-Monahan-Colborne
 Bouma-Knight-Mcagratten
 Extras- Bollig, Reinhart, Wolf, Granlund
 Bennett also possible
 
 Giordano-Brodie
 Russell-Wideman
 Smid-Engellend
 Wortherspoon
 
 Hiller
 Ramo
 
 
 That roster is in McDavid territory. I suspect the flames make a couple deals before oct 1 or that is an ugly roster
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Just looking at that i feel like we have some trades to make still.
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:40 PM | #31 |  
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			Fan960 now cutting out online, again.  Between that and the Flames website unable to stream the availability, pretty poor showing electronic media wise.
		 
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:46 PM | #32 |  
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			Overall, I'd say exactly what needed to happen today:
 Broadly, kept roster spot potential for young players, addressed cap floor situation (leaving enough flexibility if we need to trade Wideman too), kept terms short for stop-gap players as to not hamstring us in a few years, added veteran leadership on a young, rebuilding team, filled holes in roster from outgoing players.
 
 Hiller - great signing. Provides some competition for Ramo, which is important.
 
 Raymond - also a great signing. Fills a hole in offense, adds to team speed and contract is short. He seems like he reeeeally wants to be a flame. That might motivate him to step up to a new level on this short contract if he wants to stick around longer.
 
 Engelland - fills a need for 5/6 right-handed defense. Adds size, toughness, and it seems most importantly good locker room leadership. Yeah, a bit of money, but it is not that relevant as the term is fairly short and we have oodles of cap space. The only reason to be concerned with an overpayment is that it can hamstring a team for the future. This doesn't, so it's not a problem.
 
 We need signings like these to keep us from going full-Oiler and build properly for the future.
 
 Solid B+/A- for the day.
 
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:49 PM | #33 |  
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					Originally Posted by goodyear  Did Brad say anything about Byron? |  
He was asked on The Fan after his presser.
 
They are still interested in bringing him back. They have made an offer and are still talking to his agent. It's still possible that something gets done.
 
The reason they didn't give him a QO was because he could have gone to arbitration and they felt his case would have been strong for a reward they may not have wanted to take on.
		 
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:51 PM | #34 |  
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					Originally Posted by photon  Fan960 now cutting out online, again.  Between that and the Flames website unable to stream the availability, pretty poor showing electronic media wise. |  
Head over to tunein radio, the stream is much better
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:56 PM | #35 |  
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			Treliving also confirms that they have moved on from Butler and Westgarth and the rest of the former Flames who went to UFA.
		 
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		|  07-01-2014, 02:59 PM | #36 |  
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			Glencross - Stajan - HudlerGaudreau - Monahan - Colborne
 Raymond - Backlund - Jones/Granlund
 Bouma/Bollig - Reinhart - McGrattan
 Wolf
 
 Giordano - Brodie
 Russel - Smid
 Wideman - Engelland
 Wotherspoon
 
 Ramo
 Hiller
 
 My guess as to the rough roster come september. Thinking we might deal Wideman before then, though.
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		|  07-01-2014, 03:19 PM | #38 |  
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			Could the Engellend signing be similar to when good call Bobby Boughner was signed during the dark ages? I thought they overpaid at the time but he became an important leader and fan favourite.
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		|  07-01-2014, 03:25 PM | #39 |  
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			Hopefully we can still sign Vrbata. Trade D. Jones to Buffalo.
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		|  07-01-2014, 03:27 PM | #40 |  
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			I won't lie between the draft and now I figured the flames would have made a fairly substantial trade. 
 Losing Cammy replacing him with Raymond, and replacing Butler with Engellend does not really improve the team in my opinion. Adding Hiller was a very solid move and contract.
 
 Where the flames are at today I am definitely Italy thinking they take a step back. I also feel Bennett will have more than a small chance to make the team if the forward group is not upgraded. Sven, Johnny, Reinhart, and Granlund also will get a real look.
 
 The team will be in the mix to add another high end prospect next summer and hopefully take a step towards competing because right now they still are built to suck
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