06-30-2014, 10:37 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I expect Ramage to Graduate to the farm full time this year. I don't think the Flames will retain Billins' rights but I could see them making a QO just because. Never a bad idea to hold on to an asset. If he hits his strie like Gio did when he went to KHL, thats and extra asset to have in your pocket in the future.
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06-30-2014, 11:15 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
The question now becomes, does Calgary tender him a qualifying offer to retain his rights? Looking back at the Giordano timeline, it might be a smart move.
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Originally Posted by Fire
Billins is a smaller, weaker, less physical version of Giordano. Don't waste a qualifying offer on a career AHLer/KHLer. If anything Cundari is more like a Giordano type player.
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Yeah, but a QO is fairly low risk, it might make sense.
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06-30-2014, 11:18 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Is there any reason to not offer him a QO if he's going to the KHL? You'd retain his rights but there'd be no contract so he wouldn't count against the contract limit. Doesn't cost you any money either.
I guess the risk would be he shuns the KHL offer and takes the QO, but doesn't seem like that much of a risk if the KHL offer is a 'rather large fix'.
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06-30-2014, 01:18 PM
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#24
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Calgary
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I take it Christopher Breen wouldn't be re-signed either. Flames have a lot of UFA's and RFA's that aren't really worth keeping.
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06-30-2014, 01:22 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by AC
I didn't mind Billins during those 10 games, but he was too similar in style to Russell and Brodie to be a 3rd pairing guy.
Wotherspoon sprinted past him quickly. Now that Sieloff is healthy again as well, the writing is on the wall for Billins.
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Agreed. He needed to be better than Russell to have a hope, and he quite clearly wasn't.
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06-30-2014, 01:25 PM
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#26
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No point retaining his rights unless you honestly think you might take him back and give him a shot (which I doubt).
Yet him have the chance to find any team that might take him
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06-30-2014, 02:13 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah, but a QO is fairly low risk, it might make sense.
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You're right, I was thinking it would take up a contract spot for some reason. So I wouldn't be against the Flames giving him a QO but I figure the Flames and his agent have already talked and Billins know they are not interested.
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06-30-2014, 04:57 PM
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#28
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In the Sin Bin
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Guys like Roy and Kansig can make the jump to the AHL this year as well. No harm in a QO if you want to retain Billins' rights, but no real risk in just letting him go either.
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06-30-2014, 05:08 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Guys like Roy and Kansig can make the jump to the AHL this year as well. No harm in a QO if you want to retain Billins' rights, but no real risk in just letting him go either.
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Kanzig can't play in the AHL next season. He's only 19 still, so he'd have to go back to Victoria.
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06-30-2014, 05:10 PM
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#30
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In the Sin Bin
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Well hell, you're right. For some reason I thought last year was his fourth WHL season.
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12-15-2014, 09:03 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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his KHL club has released him
website says by mutual consent:
http://www.cska-hockey.ru/news/Chad_..._pokidaet_CSKA
he had 2g 4a in 21 games
Flames still own his rights as an RFA as they qualified him
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12-15-2014, 09:30 AM
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#32
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So can he just rejoin Adirondack?
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12-15-2014, 10:18 AM
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First Line Centre
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Since he was qualified as an RFA, does he have the option to come back to North America (AHL or NHL) on a deal at the qualifying offer for the remainder of the season?
Are there any waivers involved?
Defensive depth in the AHL would be useful
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12-15-2014, 10:33 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie
Since he was qualified as an RFA, does he have the option to come back to North America (AHL or NHL) on a deal at the qualifying offer for the remainder of the season?
Are there any waivers involved?
Defensive depth in the AHL would be useful
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I wonder if he can just turn around and accept his qualifying offer now, or if there is a time limit where the team can take them off the table.
Too bad he couldn't "Giordano" it up over there, but the KHL has a reputation for playing their own over North Americans unless they really have no other option.
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12-15-2014, 10:36 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Yes qualifiying offers have a time limit on when they can be accepted. He rejected his, otherwise he would have been signed.
If he wants to play in North America he has to sign with the Flames, and their will be no waivers involved because the new CBA allows for players on a team's reserve list to play in Europe and then come to North America.
It was the clause that caused the whole ROR fiasco with the Flames.
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12-15-2014, 01:10 PM
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#36
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Depth on the blue line is still a concern. Bring him back, if at all possible.
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12-15-2014, 01:34 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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we have so many defencemen in Adirondack we are already rotating players. another body does not solve anything imo, probably makes it worse
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12-15-2014, 01:39 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Originally Posted by shogged
we have so many defencemen in Adirondack we are already rotating players. another body does not solve anything imo, probably makes it worse
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Yeah depth simpliciter is not the problem, it's NHL-ready depth. Billins is probably not that.
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12-15-2014, 02:04 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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It looks like they just acquired former Pittsburgh prospect Ondrej Nemec on defense which pushed Billins out.
Maybe if he is lucky, he can sign on in Switzerland or Germany for the rest of the season.
Even though he is a Flames RFA, could he not sign an AHL with another team?
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12-15-2014, 02:05 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It looks like they just acquired former Pittsburgh prospect Ondrej Nemec on defense which pushed Billins out.
Maybe if he is lucky, he can sign on in Switzerland or Germany for the rest of the season.
Even though he is a Flames RFA, could he not sign an AHL with another team?
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the AHL respects NHL rights so I don't believe it is possible
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