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Old 06-26-2014, 03:14 PM   #21
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Apparently only one dissenting vote.

They really are no good.
What? I never voted.
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I think this is driven out of what happened in the NBA this year and fear of what teams might try to do.

When I was in Vegas in Feb for example, at least one casino would not let you bet on the Boston Celtics because their tank job was so obvious. Bad for business.
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:30 PM   #23
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I know it wont happen this way but I would love a system that the team that finished 9th has an equal chance at the No.1 pick.

So teams are not penalized for not giving up and trying to win
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I think this is driven out of what happened in the NBA this year and fear of what teams might try to do.

When I was in Vegas in Feb for example, at least one casino would not let you bet on the Boston Celtics because their tank job was so obvious. Bad for business.
That's not why you couldn't bet on the Celtics - the Celtics are partly owned by the President and CEO of Caesars Entertainment so any of the Caesars casinos aren't allowed to take bets on their games. Link
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Draft lottery changes could be in place for next season...after NHLPA Exec looks at it in July...would create more opportunities teams.

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For the Draft lottery... odds would be compressed (less for 30th)....and increase the number of selections determined by Lottery draw.
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:53 PM   #26
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Draft lottery changes could be in place for next season
BOOOOO!

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For the Draft lottery... odds would be compressed (less for 30th)....
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and increase the number of selections determined by Lottery draw.
Yay!
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Draft lottery changes could be in place for next season...after NHLPA Exec looks at it in July...would create more opportunities teams.

John Shannon @JSportsnet
For the Draft lottery... odds would be compressed (less for 30th)....and increase the number of selections determined by Lottery draw.
awesome, so we could get screwed
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:13 PM   #28
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Who knows, it might work out in our favour. I don't see us sucking bad enough to finish 30th next year anyway.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:15 PM   #29
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How many 1st rounders have already been traded next year?

Rangers and Islanders are all I can think of off the top of my head. Any others?
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How many 1st rounders have already been traded next year?

Rangers and Islanders are all I can think of off the top of my head. Any others?
Buffalo owns the Islanders and Blues picks and Tampa has the Rangers pick.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:21 PM   #31
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Buffalo got St. Louis' 2015 first rounder in the Miller trade -- unlikely to be affected by the lottery, but you never know.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:21 PM   #32
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How many 1st rounders have already been traded next year?

Rangers and Islanders are all I can think of off the top of my head. Any others?
Blues to Buffalo

Islanders to Buffalo

Rangers to Lightning
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Nm.
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I like the sounds of evening out the odds, as well as more picks determined by lottery.

Knowing the NHL, it's likely just a small change to the current system.... Maybe something like:

Odds:
30th - 14%
29th - 13%
28th - 12%
27th - 11%
26th - 10%
25th - 9%
24th - 8%
23rd - 7%
22nd - 5%
21st - 4%
20th - 2%
19th - 2%
18th - 1%
17th - 1%

Lottery held for picks 1 thru 3.
At pick #4, order goes back to reverse standings.
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:03 PM   #35
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Because that does not address what Colorado did to tank their way to MacKinnon.
This would...Of the bottom five teams at the end of the year, the team with the best winning percentage in the last 20 games gets 1st overall pick, 2nd best percentage gets 2nd pick, and so on. Would be good for the fans as well as they would still have something to cheer for, besides losses.
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This would...Of the bottom five teams at the end of the year, the team with the best winning percentage in the last 20 games gets 1st overall pick, 2nd best percentage gets 2nd pick, and so on. Would be good for the fans as well as they would still have something to cheer for, besides losses.
That would certainly change the trade deadline sell-off.
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This would...Of the bottom five teams at the end of the year, the team with the best winning percentage in the last 20 games gets 1st overall pick, 2nd best percentage gets 2nd pick, and so on. Would be good for the fans as well as they would still have something to cheer for, besides losses.
And that's totally contrary to what the draft is.
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:26 PM   #38
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Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
On draft lottery: phase-in approach, 2015: odds will be smoothed among 14 non-playoff teams. In 2016, NHL will increase the number of selections that will be determined by way of Lottery draw.

So starting this year, the odds will be smoothed.

In 2016 the odds will be smoothed as in 2015, but more than the 1st overall pick will be chosen by lottery.
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So we're still guaranteed at least second with a last place finish. Phew.
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:36 PM   #40
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And that's totally contrary to what the draft is.
Why? The bottom five teams still get the the first five picks. Just that tanking to end the season won't give you a Mcdavid(or McKinnon). Not really any different than having a lottery of the bottom five teams to see who gets first pick.
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