[News] Leino and Booth on waivers for compliance buyouts

[Calgary4LIfe]

Booth might be an alright gamble as a reclamation project (1 year term max if so).

Leino, on the other hand, would be terrible. I remember when he left Detroit to join Philly, he was saying how nice it is to be out of a system that constrained his play and into a system that allowed him the flexibility.

Someone who leaves Detroit complaining about their system sounds like someone who is a 'me first' type of player. No thank you, especially in a rebuild where veteran attitude is so important in showing the youth the right way to be professional.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Are we close to Vancouver being able to field a full organization simply with the people they're paying not to work / play for them?

[19Yzerman19]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Are we close to Vancouver being able to field a full organization simply with the people they're paying not to work / play for them?

If you think you could get by with a forward, 15% of a goalie, defenseman, coach and GM, then yes.

This is still pretty stupid on the part of the Canucks. Booth had one more year left on his deal, they should have just rode it out. He's still a useful if overpaid 3rd liner, drives possession pretty well.

EDIT: I mean, let's assume the Canucks are again not a playoff team. If Booth plays moderately well, no worse than he has so far, and the Canucks retained half his salary, he might be worth a 3rd-4th rounder to someone at the deadline.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Good lord does Buffalo have some work to do to get to the floor.

I foresee a ridiculous contract offer to Callahan that will make the Clarkson contract look okay by comparison.

[The Fonz]

Picking up Booth as a 'reclamation project' would be a poor decision.

He's a 30 year old average sized winger, who is injury prone, and has little to no offense left in the tank. Even if he returned to the player he was 4 years ago, that is a .5 ppg guy.

We have a .5 ppg player in Baertschi, who is 8 years younger than Booth.

[Galakanokis]

My guess right now is they (canucks) are freeing up cap space to make a run at a prime UFA. Or try and trade for a big time player.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Picking up Booth as a 'reclamation project' would be a poor decision.

He's a 30 year old average sized winger, who is injury prone, and has little to no offense left in the tank. Even if he returned to the player he was 4 years ago, that is a .5 ppg guy.

We have a .5 ppg player in Baertschi, who is 8 years younger than Booth.

Canucks are paying a lot of money for players, coaches, GM's not to work for them so you know they took this decision very seriously and decided he was so bad that it was worth it to add his salary to the list. That has to tell you something with even new management coming in that could have given him another shot that it's pretty obvious he doesn't have a lot to offer anymore. He may resurface somewhere but he will have to play a lot better to continue his career in the NHL.

[OutOfTheCube]

And for anyone saying "Why do this?? They need to reach the floor somehow!"

...Leino is the laziest, most useless locker room cancer maybe in the history of this entire franchise. Just paying to get his personality away from our promising prospects is worth the money.

[rbochan]

[Trumbull]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Booth might be an alright gamble as a reclamation project (1 year term max if so).

Leino, on the other hand, would be terrible. I remember when he left Detroit to join Philly, he was saying how nice it is to be out of a system that constrained his play and into a system that allowed him the flexibility.

Someone who leaves Detroit complaining about their system sounds like someone who is a 'me first' type of player. No thank you, especially in a rebuild where veteran attitude is so important in showing the youth the right way to be professional.

I agree, well put.

[Huntingwhale]

Whomever decided to sign Leino should be beaten with a stick, along with his agent. That's got to be one of the worst contracts I've ever seen in my entire time of following the league. No goals last season is just embarrassing and Leino should never play in the NHL again.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Whomever decided to sign Leino should be beaten with a stick, along with his agent. That's got to be one of the worst contracts I've ever seen in my entire time of following the league. No goals last season is just embarrassing and Leino should never play in the NHL again.

I wont be surprised if hes off to the KHL as soon as hes bought out. That was a terrible contract.

It smacked of finally having a new owner with lots of money wanting to buy shiny toys. The Ehrhoff and Leino contracts were insane.

[19Yzerman19]

I actually don't much mind the Ehrhoff contract. The only problem with that one is that it should be on a contending squad rather than a rebuilder because of his age. If you move him back to San Jose that contract looks very good indeed.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

I actually don't much mind the Ehrhoff contract. The only problem with that one is that it should be on a contending squad rather than a rebuilder because of his age. If you move him back to San Jose that contract looks very good indeed.

7 more years for a 32 year old one dimensional defenseman? No thanks. Not saying teams could not use him, especially ones in need of a power play boost but that's way too much term. If it was a 3 year deal teams would be all over him.

[19Yzerman19]

At 4M per year AAV. He massively outperforms his team (not that that's hard), and is a power play asset. At this point, if you get a #4 guy for four million against the cap you're doing pretty well. Ehrhoff is a #2. If he declines, which he probably will, the deal might not be very good for a few years, but by then the cap should go up such that his AAV will be the equivalent of maybe $3M in today's cap dollars, so it might still end up being fair.

Fancy stats suggest that he's a very good defenseman on an awful team. These are last year's numbers but nonetheless, with Ehrhoff on the ice, Buffalo was elite in terms of possession (over 51%), without him they were historically terrible (38%ish). This year, he had a PDO of 970 and still posted a Corsi Rel of 9.6.

If I were I playoff team I'd take that contract on any day of the week.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Booth might be an alright gamble as a reclamation project (1 year term max if so).

I clicked on this thread and thought surely this will be the one time when somebody will not make the ridiculous suggestion of signing a garbage player, I mean it is Booth right? Wrong.

[FAN]

I don't mind the team taking a chance on David Booth. I think fans are too caught up in the whole "the kids need to play" idea. Healthy competition is good and I think the team should sign a couple of veterans to 1 year deals for the purpose of moving them at the deadline. And for all intents and purposes, this isn't a 5 year rebuild. I don't think Burke or Treliving has any intention of this team missing the playoffs the next 3-4 years. Stajan is a year older than Booth. I am not at all worried about the team signing a 30 year old UFA to a short-term contract.

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Don't worry, Booth will never over achieve. The guy is just not that good at hockey anymore. Great speed but not a great skater if that makes sense. Very north south and not much creativity. Might work with the right center (Kesler and him were terrible together) that drives the play and can distribute the puck. 3rd liner at best but his defensive game is not the greatest. Pass big time.

Actually, Booth has overachieved. If you consider his skillset, he should never have scored 30 goals in the NHL. The guy got to where he was by working hard.

And about his skating ya it makes sense but you are wrong. Booth is a very good skater with good edge control. Watch his highlights from his Florida days. He can stick handle at high speeds and make sharp lateral cuts. Don't mistake a north south player who likes to drive to the net with an inability to move laterally.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I clicked on this thread and thought surely this will be the one time when somebody will not make the ridiculous suggestion of signing a garbage player, I mean it is Booth right? Wrong.

I said alright gamble, not a ridiculous suggestion.