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View Poll Results: Should the Flames re-sign Mike Cammalleri?
Yes, he's their most dangerous forward, without him they won't score 20 7.35%
Yes, he's a good fit, and an important part of the dressing room 137 50.37%
No, he's small, and the Flames need to get bigger 38 13.97%
No, he will want too much term 77 28.31%
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:58 AM   #21
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Voted No, Flames would be better off trying to trade him for a late pick. That would improve if he signed with the new team.

I doubt the player has any intention of re-signing.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:06 PM   #22
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voted yes because i think he's tradable down the road and we have cap space.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:09 PM   #23
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I said yes, though I don't think he'll re-sign at the end of the day.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:09 PM   #24
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I'm fine with 1 or 2 years, if you have to pay him a premium (8m for 1 year or 6.5m per for 2 years )I'm ok with that too. I look at it like you are paying to have a guy as a stop gap for a year or two then trade him for more than the rumored 3rd rounder Burke was offered this year.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:36 PM   #25
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I would vote for all 4 options. There's several reasons to keep him and several reasons why we probably won't. I'd keep him because he's an asset and a good player. But he'll likely want too much money/term and it's easier to get bigger without him.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:40 PM   #26
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Totally depends on term.

I would sign him to 3 years tops. Any more term than that & I think we'll have shot ourselves in the (future) foot, cap space wise. In a couple of years I believe we'll be a team on The Up, & if we have the cap space we could devote it to some bigger contributors than Cammy.

I would personally rather add a veteran top 6 RW via trade, but I understand that would be easier said than done. Cammy is a last resort...
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:49 PM   #27
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for me, it's basically the same answer for Squid as it is for other UFA'a & RFA's...if the number is right and the term is right then we can use him.

He's still got good offense, he's not too old and he's a good guy for the kids to have around in the room.

if it's north of 3 years then it's tougher for me to rationalize it.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:58 PM   #28
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Nope. Bringing him back from Montreal was a lateral move at best. Find a new blend to assist the rebuild with a FA to help get to cap floor. Maybe even go bargain-hunting after the big names land in new homes.
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:03 PM   #29
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Ideally we would overpay him on a one year deal and trade him to a contender at the deadline for a nice package where we could retain salary. He would need to be on board and continue to be a positive guy in the dressing room, mentor the young guys, etc.
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Hard to see what he brings other than helping the team finish 5th last instead of 3rd last and maybe getting to the cap floor. Hard to see why he would waste his last part of his prime on a short term deal with the Flames only to be dealt at the deadline. That's a great move for Flames fans but makes no sense for Cammalieri. He should get a deal with too many years for it to make sense for the Flames.

He also has been here for awhile now and bringing him back seems kind of like keeping the same group together that has shown it is bottom 5 already. I don't necessarily want change for change sakes but bringing back the same group that has been so bad recently doesn't seem like a very productive way of doing things.
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I voted no because of term. I feel he is on track for a 4-5 year deal which the Flames I do not think are comfortable offering up. They could offer him the same amount of dollars they payed him last year on a three year deal and I think he'd pass it up.

I'd be surprised if Cammy returned to the Flames. I like the guy but I don't see it in the cards.
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:46 PM   #32
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I don't like the poll options. I don't want him signed for term amount (also not his biggest fan), however, I know signing him is good for asset management.

Gaborik winning a cup with the Kings set the tone for the trade deadline next year, and with Cammy most likely not getting a full NTC/NMC, he'll be up for rental status once again at the next trade deadline.
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:15 PM   #33
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Yes but he will want 6m again and he will look to get it from who will pay him that much. It's too much.
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Old 06-14-2014, 06:40 PM   #34
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Hard to see what he brings other than helping the team finish 5th last instead of 3rd last and maybe getting to the cap floor. Hard to see why he would waste his last part of his prime on a short term deal with the Flames only to be dealt at the deadline. That's a great move for Flames fans but makes no sense for Cammalieri. He should get a deal with too many years for it to make sense for the Flames.

He also has been here for awhile now and bringing him back seems kind of like keeping the same group together that has shown it is bottom 5 already. I don't necessarily want change for change sakes but bringing back the same group that has been so bad recently doesn't seem like a very productive way of doing things.
Totally agree with you.
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Old 06-14-2014, 06:57 PM   #35
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I'm just going to throw a hypothetical out there for the sake of discussion:

Does having Squid on the roster assist in signing quality free agents or acquiring players through trade? Without him, Treliving will call up a player's agent and be like, "well, uh, your client will get to play alongside, um, Jiri Hudler..."

Cammy seems to be well liked around the league, so maybe he's an asset beyond the sheet of ice?
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Year 1 - 6.000 million
Year 2 - 5.500 million [$5,750,000 cap hit]
Year 3 - 4.750 million [$5,416,667 cap hit]
Year 4 - 4.000 million [$5,062,500 cap hit]
Year 5 - 3.000 million [$4,650,000 cap hit]
Year 6 - 2.750 million [$4,333,333 cap hit]
is this part of the new CBA? Where the actual cap-hit can differ from year to year? I was under the belief cap-hits work the same way as the last CBA, which means the cap-hit is constant throughout the term of the contract.
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is this part of the new CBA? Where the actual cap-hit can differ from year to year? I was under the belief cap-hits work the same way as the last CBA, which means the cap-hit is constant throughout the term of the contract.
you misunderstood what I was saying, and maybe I wasn't clear enough.

The "cap hit" would be if the deal ended after that particular season. The longer the deal, the lower the cap hit will become.
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:13 PM   #38
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No, because he'll cause flames to win a few more games, draft lower, and then either be gone or ineffective by the time Flames are ready to compete.
He won a few games for Flames afters trade deadline this year ... it doesn't matter so much this year, but next year ?
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:20 PM   #39
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I want Cammy on a 2 yr deal. Id 7go million per if it didnt have any clauses. Then we can trade him and eat half his Salary.

I dont wan him long term though.
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:39 PM   #40
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Would love to see him back for a year or two but I doubt he wants that. If he doesn't get an offer from a contender he might do a one year deal though?
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