Mormon Church still living in the 18th century

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Dion

On a positive note.....

The Mormon Church was the ONLY religious organisation to help out with the flood clean up here in High River. They went around in large groups helping residents clean out thier basements and any other work that needed to be done. As much as we like to put down religion, they still do good things in the world today.

Not really. Samaritans Purse, a non denominational religious organization, was also very helpful in high river. And you bet your bottom that recruitment is part of the reason the Mormons were there. Still wonderful that they were helping.

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[FlamesAddiction]

While I don't get their religion at all, practically every Mormon I meet is just really nice. I really disagree with the chauvinistic attitudes of most Christian sects though.

[Money Baer]

Originally Posted by Dion

On a positive note.....

The Mormon Church was the ONLY religious organisation to help out with the flood clean up here in High River. They went around in large groups helping residents clean out thier basements and any other work that needed to be done. As much as we like to put down religion, they still do good things in the world today.

That's not true. (as others have mentioned)

My parents were effected by the flood and received an abundance of support from the Salvation Army.

I'm also aware that the High River Baptist Church (Corban Knight's family runs this) was involved in relief.

[Azure]

Like them or not, but the Mormons played a huge part in the early settlement in Alberta, and are a major reason areas like Lethbridge, Cardston, Taber, Bow Island, Medicine Hat, etc, etc are major agriculture boons and contribute hugely to the Alberta economy.

Mormons and Dutch immigrants.

I find their belief system strange as well, but I had Mormon teachers for years throughout my school years, as well as having gone to school with many Mormon kids, they are some of the nicest people I've met. Nice and hardworking.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Money Baer

That's not true. (as others have mentioned)

My parents were effected by the flood and received an abundance of support from the Salvation Army.

I'm also aware that the High River Baptist Church (Corban Knight's family runs this) was involved in relief.

and the Hutterites served tens of thousands of sandwiches and the like.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Money Baer

That's not true. (as others have mentioned)

My parents were effected by the flood and received an abundance of support from the Salvation Army.

I'm also aware that the High River Baptist Church (Corban Knight's family runs this) was involved in relief.

High River Baptist Church lost their building due to the floods. But I know that they, and many other religious organizations have been working in High River to help recover even until today.

Back on topic, one of most important things that I look for in a church that I want to go to, is a church where females are every bit as eligible for any position.

[ae118]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

While I don't get their religion at all, practically every Mormon I meet is just really nice. I really disagree with the chauvinistic attitudes of most Christian sects though.

I know lots of nice Mormons too. In my experience though, their brand of religious patriarchy is relatively high - the exclusively male priesthood extends into the family and affects every Mormon man; the prescribed gender roles; the history of plural marriage. To me, this level of institutionalized sexism is quite a bit beyond most Christian denominations.

[cracher]

Originally Posted by chedder

Not really. Samaritans Purse, a non denominational religious organization, was also very helpful in high river. And you bet your bottom that recruitment is part of the reason the Mormons were there. Still wonderful that they were helping.

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Not sure if it is entirely correct to consider them "nondenominational". They are evangelical which would tie them in with several specific denominations.

Respect to SP though. They put in a lot of work on the siksika (sp?) reserve as well from what i hear.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Money Baer

That's not true. (as others have mentioned)

My parents were effected by the flood and received an abundance of support from the Salvation Army.

I'm also aware that the High River Baptist Church (Corban Knight's family runs this) was involved in relief.

I was referring to the actual clean up efforts on a large scale. The Salvation Army was great with their support in other ways such as food clothing, cleaning supplies, money etc. The Hutterites in the evacuation centers and throughout the community with food preperations for flood victims and all the volunteers that helped.

[Rathji]

With respect to flood cleanup, there were a ton of groups that helped on many levels, religious or not, the LDS church was not alone for sure, but they were very visible in almost every area I went to help with, partially due to the yellow shirts they wore.

In the end, I don't care why someone helped, but I greatly respect anyone that did, because in the end, people who got screwed over by nature got helped out by people. If the LDS church did it so that in a few years down the road people might not slam the door on missionaries, so be it. I never got that impression though.

edit: As to the original topic, like most religious organizations, this is an area where the LDS church is "behind the times". I wouldn't be surprised if, in time, it changes. For me, things like actual equal pay for equal work and severe human rights violations against women/girls are much, much higher on the list

[Goodlad]

Considering it wasn't until 1978 that the LDS church allowed black men to hold the priesthood, it's going to be a long time before women do. I honestly don't think it will ever happen. If the Catholic church has been able to survive this long without it I doubt the Mormons will ever do it.

[Swarly]

did they help out so much because they felt guilty? it was their god after all who did this to us

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Swarly

did they help out so much because they felt guilty? it was their god after all who did this to us

I think that was the Westboro Baptist God

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Dion

On a positive note.....

The Mormon Church was the ONLY religious organisation to help out with the flood clean up here in High River. They went around in large groups helping residents clean out thier basements and any other work that needed to be done. As much as we like to put down religion, they still do good things in the world today.

No it wasn't. I know for a fact that World Renew helped out. A family from my church spent a lot of time volunteering for World Renew.

http://www.worldrenew.net/our-storie...-river-alberta

[cancer man]

Originally Posted by Daradon

I don't know why this is any different from other religious organizations. I mean I know a few offshoots of Christianity allow female pastors/priests, but the Catholic and most others don't.

And yeah, I've always understood Buddhism to be more of a spiritual philosophy than a religion. Yes there is a difference.

Ah but your wrong the catlickers have 2 female priests on a test run in the
Vatican.It will happen.

[Trumbull]

The Mormon church in the US acts a lot more "out there" down south than here, because they had a lot more political clout. Due to that, they were able to discriminate against people, especially gays, on the taxpayer dime. I believe they were also the prominent funders of Prop 8 in California as well. This sort of behaviour is not something we see here, so should be thankful they're a bit more reasonable. If they're respectful of the type of people we see targeted for discrimination in the US, of all places, I see no reason to care what their beliefs are.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Trumbull

The Mormon church in the US acts a lot more "out there" down south than here, because they had a lot more political clout. Due to that, they were able to discriminate against people, especially gays, on the taxpayer dime. I believe they were also the prominent funders of Prop 8 in California as well. This sort of behaviour is not something we see here, so should be thankful they're a bit more reasonable. If they're respectful of the type of people we see targeted for discrimination in the US, of all places, I see no reason to care what their beliefs are.

I think Bountiful is a good reason to care.