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combustiblefuel · 03-07-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stampsx2

They should just raise the speed limits everywhere. Problem solved.

Not really. People would still go over the new limit.

csnarpy · 03-07-2014, 08:22 PM

They can't do 1km over. My wife's SUV has been clocked at 3km under what the speedometer shows. My vehicle actually speeds by 2km.

We were told by our dealer that canada allows +/- 5km in speedometer discrepancy....

btimbit · 03-07-2014, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by squiggs96

I like how you can only focus on small crimes once all large crimes are solved. In no way should you pay any attention to any crime unless it is of the major variety.

No, not what I'm saying. Simply saying enforcing this is generally a waste of time for the Traffic unit.

combustiblefuel · 03-07-2014, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by btimbit

No, not what I'm saying. Simply saying enforcing this is generally a waste of time for the Traffic unit.

Is that not their job? Traffic? That's a traffic law otherwise they should just sit at Timmy's waiting for an accident. Other major crimes are not part of the Traffic Safety unit. Wish they were better here for traffic Enforcement. I have a speed gun I use to check r/c builds and have clocked people on Hillside ave (major road in Victoria) traveling 90kms on a daily basis. In Victoria we are actually lowering speed limits to 30km. As aMoter cyclist only I like it. 9out of ten people hit by another car at 50km will die, only 1 out of 10 will die at 30kms. As well as Future plans to make downtown car free.

btimbit · 03-07-2014, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Is that not their job? Traffic? That's a traffic law otherwise they should just sit at Timmy's waiting for an accident. In Victoria we are actually lowering speed limits to 30km. As aMoter cyclist only I like it. 9out of ten people hit by another car at 50km will die, only 1 out of 10 will die at 30kms. As well as Future plans to make downtown car free.

I think we're discussing two separate things. I have no issue with police ticketing speeders, but I'm reading this as if they'd start ticketing people going 5 km/h over the speed limit on a road with a 60+ limit.

theinfinitejar · 03-07-2014, 09:24 PM

Just another reason to avoid Edmonton.

AcGold · 03-07-2014, 09:26 PM

penalize dangerous driving not speeding by 10kph, seriously. If you're speeding in the left lane on Stoney or Deerfoot you aren't really endangering anyone. Aggressively changing lanes behind someone whom is also trying to merge, passing others on the right on a busy road in the morning rush should get you a ticket.

combustiblefuel · 03-07-2014, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by btimbit

I think we're discussing two separate things. I have no issue with police ticketing speeders, but I'm reading this as if they'd start ticketing people going 5 km/h over the speed limit on a road with a 60+ limit.

What I was saying is yes. Speeding is speeding. Whether it is a 5kms or 100kms. If your worried about if your speedo is accurate or not you can get a dyno test done to calibrate it. Where are you going that's so damn important you can't go the limit. A limit is where they draw a line it does not say suggested speed. If your late then you should of left earlier.

btimbit · 03-07-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

What I was saying is yes. Speeding is speeding. Whether it is a 5kms or 100kms. If your worried about if your speedo is accurate or not you can get a dyno test done to calibrate it.

Speeding is speeding yes

Speeding is always dangerous no

combustiblefuel · 03-07-2014, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by btimbit

Speeding is speeding yes

Speeding is always dangerous no

Not always, your right. But that's not the point they are trying to make.
Like jaywalking its not always dangerous but you do get caught you get a ticket.

CalgaryFan1988 · 03-07-2014, 10:19 PM

I think the idling photo radar vehicle is more of a concern to the public than a vehicle going 10km/hr over the speed limit.

If it was a school zone, different discussion though IMO.

btimbit · 03-07-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Not always, your right. But that's not the point they are trying to make.
Like jaywalking its not always dangerous but you do get caught you get a ticket.

I do get what they're saying, don't get me wrong, but it just seems like a waste of resources to me. Traffic unit is spending time nabbing people doing slightly over the speed limit, meanwhile tailgaters, 'left lane warriors' etc get largely ignored because of this misplaced 'war on speed'

combustiblefuel · 03-07-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by btimbit

I do get what they're saying, don't get me wrong, but it just seems like a waste of resources to me. Traffic unit is spending time nabbing people doing slightly over the speed limit, meanwhile tailgaters, 'left lane warriors' etc get largely ignored because of this misplaced 'war on speed'

Don't you have too speed generally ( or had to speed at sometime) to get in to position to tailgate? I guess not always but simple physics would dictate you would have had to of left right behind the person in a matter of seconds off a light to achieve this.

btimbit · 03-08-2014, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Don't you have too speed generally ( or had to speed at sometime) to get in to position to tailgate? I guess not always but simple physics would dictate you would have had to of left right behind the person in a matter of seconds off a light to achieve this.

So you're saying all speeders are automatically tailgaters?

See, I can deliberately miss the point too

combustiblefuel · 03-08-2014, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by btimbit

So you're saying all speeders are automatically tailgaters?

See, I can deliberately miss the point too

Well in a way yes. In short I do think its appropriate to ticket all speeders. You give an inch they'll take a foot.

AcGold · 03-08-2014, 01:59 AM

I honestly don't care about speeders, I care about accelerators, people that hit the gas hard and try to maneuver around everyone or will speed up to stop you from changing lanes. I drive slow as hell and find it's almost never the speed that puts others in danger but when people change lanes a lot, accelerate hard and speed up when they see someone changing lanes. If you're even 30 over the limit in the fast lane it's of no consequence to me, why not ticket based on the danger posed to everyone else?

Daradon · 03-08-2014, 02:22 AM

Yeah 10% over is a better rule of thumb than 10 KM over.

As people have mentioned, peoples speedometers can be off, the radar equipment can be off, etc. While the law being a set amount or line is fine, the problem is that it's nearly impossible to measure and prove that line to within a single KM. So all this rule is going to do is make a bunch more people contest tickets (which I don't disagree with) and cost the system time and money.

That's why most places don't usually do that.

schooner · 03-08-2014, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AcGold

I honestly don't care about speeders, I care about accelerators, people that hit the gas hard and try to maneuver around everyone or will speed up to stop you from changing lanes. I drive slow as hell and find it's almost never the speed that puts others in danger but when people change lanes a lot, accelerate hard and speed up when they see someone changing lanes. If you're even 30 over the limit in the fast lane it's of no consequence to me, why not ticket based on the danger posed to everyone else?

I will admit I am an aggressive driver. Not dangerous, I know when to dial back and am very attentive, but I like to drive quick. However, the thing that drives me nuts is the slow highway drivers who speed up in the passing zone. All of a sudden they go from 90 to 120 so now i have to go 130 to pass. Or if i fail to pass we are all of a sudden going 90 again until the next passing lane. I do a lot of driving on 1 and 97 in bc and see this all the time.

AcGold · 03-08-2014, 03:18 AM

the thing that drives me the craziest is when I'm on the on-ramp about to merge and the person behind tries to speed around me in the lane I'm trying to get into because they can't handle me being in front of them for 2 more seconds while I don't speed. Hands down one of the most dangerous scenarios because I often end up not being able to change when I would naturally, have to look ahead again, look behind, managing the distance of multiple cars instead of just changing lanes.

I don't even drive that slow, pretty much just stick to the limits but for some people that drives them insane and they turn the entire situation from safe to extremely hazardous.

combustiblefuel · 03-08-2014, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by schooner

I will admit I am an aggressive driver. Not dangerous, I know when to dial back and am very attentive, but I like to drive quick. However, the thing that drives me nuts is the slow highway drivers who speed up in the passing zone. All of a sudden they go from 90 to 120 so now i have to go 130 to pass. Or if i fail to pass we are all of a sudden going 90 again until the next passing lane. I do a lot of driving on 1 and 97 in bc and see this all the time.

Awe man I feel sorry for you. Terrible stretch. Parents live by Savona. What 97 are you driving? Sounds like you mist drive around cache creek area. I drive the coquihalla hwy all the it's just quicker since they took the toll booths out. Semis and guys in Fancy car describe what you seem to be going thru.