02-22-2014, 04:17 PM
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Forsberg videos are a staple in the Canucks school of diving. Too bad we didn't get a bunch of vengeful Finnish officials, than Forsberg would be crying about that.
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02-22-2014, 05:34 PM
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Im surprised how many of you see nothing wrong with it.
If we had 3 swedish refs, Canada would be pretty upset.
I think a balance should be required. That said, if there was going to be 1 country to officiate and be fair, I would say Canada/USA is/are the one(s)!
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02-22-2014, 05:37 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Isnt that mostly the crew from the american game? and IIRC they gave the americans a couple powerplays off horrible calls and missed some pretty blatant USA infractions (high stick on pietrangelo).
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02-22-2014, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I think they should be from countries that are neutral.
This can actually backfire on Canada if the refs go out of their way to not appear biased.
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A part of me thinks this what Forseberg had in mind when he made those comments. Try and create an edge for his team.
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02-22-2014, 05:42 PM
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First Line Centre
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Now if Sweden loses, Forsberg will have something to blame it on. Quit looking for excuses
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02-22-2014, 05:45 PM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Realtor 1
Im surprised how many of you see nothing wrong with it.
If we had 3 swedish refs, Canada would be pretty upset.
I think a balance should be required. That said, if there was going to be 1 country to officiate and be fair, I would say Canada/USA is/are the one(s)!
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If there were Swedish refs in the NHL and they were the best it would be no problem.
I read today that the refs for the final were determined before the tournament (ir)regardless of who was playing.
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02-22-2014, 06:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
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Whether or not they were determined a year ago or today, they should not all be from the same country (I know one guy is American but lives in Calgary)
The NHL should also have nothing to do with it as its a different game. Its not a NHL game and shouldnt be called as one.
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02-22-2014, 06:17 PM
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by Realtor 1
The NHL should also have nothing to do with it as its a different game. Its not a NHL game and shouldnt be called as one.
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It's not like the NHL 'sent' them there. They're on break just like the NHL, and the Olympics wanted them. They're the best. And who said it's going to be called like an NHL game? Are you just making things up to make your point?
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02-22-2014, 06:21 PM
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Who's been reffing all the rest of the men's games? It's been all international guys up until the gold medal game they call in the "NHL"/North American refs?
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02-22-2014, 06:21 PM
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I have no problem with this complaint. We'd be complaining if the refs were all from Sweden.
I would think that the refs should be from a country not participating in the game.
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02-22-2014, 06:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion
A part of me thinks this what Forseberg had in mind when he made those comments. Try and create an edge for his team.
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That is all this is. He is simply trying to get an edge.
The players wanted NHL referees, and those don't come from Great Britain. They come from North America.
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02-22-2014, 07:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077
I would think that the refs should be from a country not participating in the game.
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That is usually the IIHF rule (which is why the women's gold medal game had a British ref), but the NHL made it a condition of their participation in the Olympics (dating back to 1998, I believe) that NHL refs be used in the medal games of the men's tournament.
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02-22-2014, 07:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077
I have no problem with this complaint. We'd be complaining if the refs were all from Sweden.
I would think that the refs should be from a country not participating in the game.
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Ideally but, how many countries that are not participating in the games have enough quality refs. Or maybe you meant they should not be from either of the two countries playing in that particular game?
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02-22-2014, 07:15 PM
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NOT breaking news
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Location: Calgary
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Dont get sucked in. There is no surprise here.
This is the deal. NHL refs in every gold medal final since 1998.
This is the first time it is a NA team vs a Euro team in the final so it's suddenly an issue?
Does Sweden really want a KHL ref?
The Soviets even wanted Koharski in 1987, Forsberg is worse than them!
98 McCreary
02 McCreary
06 Devorski
10 McCreary & O'Halloran
Americans didn't complain when they got Canadian refs twice.
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02-22-2014, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesfan1297
Ideally but, how many countries that are not participating in the games have enough quality refs. Or maybe you meant they should not be from either of the two countries playing in that particular game?
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Just refs from multiple countries that are not represented in the current game. Surely there must be a couple NHL refs from the USA that could be used if the NHL demands that their refs work the games. Ideally, each Ref and linesman would be from a different country
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02-22-2014, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Rather have NHL refs than some of the jokes called refs from Europe.
If the men where to get the quality of reffing the women got in their gold medal game...
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They really shouldn't be Canadian then if that's the case. I have no doubt the game will be called fairly but its still an international event and there's a reason in every other Olympic event that the Judges don't judge their own country.
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02-22-2014, 07:23 PM
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NOT breaking news
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
They really shouldn't be Canadian then if that's the case. I have no doubt the game will be called fairly but its still an international event and there's a reason in every other Olympic event that the Judges don't judge their own country.
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It;s the agreement. The US played two gold medal finals and a 96 world cup against Canada with a Canadian ref and they were fine with it. In 2010 they played Canada in Vancouver with TWO Canadian refs.
Forsberg is a jerk. The Swedish coaches and players are fine with it, they know the agreement and they play in the NHL.
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02-22-2014, 07:23 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
They really shouldn't be Canadian then if that's the case. I have no doubt the game will be called fairly but its still an international event and there's a reason in every other Olympic event that the Judges don't judge their own country.
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ummm, what?
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02-22-2014, 07:43 PM
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The NHL have the best referees and there hasn't been any complaints about them in past Olympics. They'll be impartial not like in the dark ages when the Euro refs used to penalize Canada for looking the wrong way. Even if the NHL refs were biased towards us they'd never be able to even out the crap that the Euros hung on us for years. One year they even changed the rules to take away our medal.
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02-22-2014, 07:46 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Realtor 1
Im surprised how many of you see nothing wrong with it.
If we had 3 swedish refs, Canada would be pretty upset.
I think a balance should be required. That said, if there was going to be 1 country to officiate and be fair, I would say Canada/USA is/are the one(s)!
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http://sochi2014.iihf.com/men/news/medalofficials/
Check the date. YESTERDAY. And Sweden, USA, Finland and Canada all agreed to these selections. Again Yesterday. Why anyone is even bothering to feed this crap is beyond me. They were picked before the finals started, all the teams agreed. End of story, no sequel, done.
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