02-10-2014, 02:19 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
That's a waste of a buyout though because we don't really need to buy him out. If we can't find a deal for him, he'll remain stuck in the minors or on the team as a depth guy.
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I get that but Burke does crazy things sometimes. Its huge waste of a buyout. But what are the alternatives? Giving up assets to get rid of O'Brien? If it was a matter of just retaining salary then he'd better get cozy in Abbotsford.
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02-10-2014, 02:21 PM
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#22
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Originally Posted by Locke
I get that but Burke does crazy things sometimes. Its huge waste of a buyout. But what are the alternatives? Giving up assets to get rid of O'Brien? If it was a matter of just retaining salary then he'd better get cozy in Abbotsford.
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I was thinking it would have to be the latter. Burke should try to facilitate a trade, even for something minor, but if he can't, I sure hope he doesn't waste a buyout or eat salary just to keep O'Brien happy. I'd rather O'Brien just get cozy with the Heat, although I guess I could stomach eating salary on an O'Brien trade, not like we are short on cap space.
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02-10-2014, 03:07 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Nice to hear that Burke is working on getting O'Brien back in the NHL somewhere. Swell gesture.
I still can't believe that the Tanguay/Sarich / Jones/O'Brien trade went down. I know Tangs was pouting a bit and Cory was pushed down the depth chart but the fact the Flames only got two players whose only worth is reaching the cap floor is frustrating.
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02-10-2014, 03:19 PM
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#24
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Compliance buyout deadline is this summer so if you have them you may as well use them before they are gone.
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02-10-2014, 03:22 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Nice to hear that Burke is working on getting O'Brien back in the NHL somewhere. Swell gesture.
I still can't believe that the Tanguay/Sarich / Jones/O'Brien trade went down. I know Tangs was pouting a bit and Cory was pushed down the depth chart but the fact the Flames only got two players whose only worth is reaching the cap floor is frustrating.
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I could have lived with the deal if it was just Jones coming to Calgary as the total money would have been almost a wash but the Flames took the two worst players and the two worst contracts which makes absolutely no sense unless they really, really felt that Jones could turn back into a 20 goal scorer and impact player. Unfortunately if that's what they were hoping they were wrong. Very wrong.
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02-10-2014, 03:33 PM
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#26
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by neo45
I doubt a team even wants to pay SOB 1.1 mil or more next year. The Flames might have to retain salary, AND take a contract back. It could easily end up SOB is just bought out in the offseason
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1.1 million is nothing these days. I can definitely see O'Brien at 50% for a late round draft pick. Just need to find a team that needs some added depth for the playoffs. I suppose time will tell which of us is correct.
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02-10-2014, 03:49 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Even at 50% I don't see him moveable. The level of suck O Brien has is unbelievable.
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02-10-2014, 03:51 PM
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#28
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Just isn't the player we all hoped him to be. Instead of being aggressive and gritty, we just got a softy who likes to do spin-o-ramas.
Glad Burke is trying to find him a new home elsewhere.
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02-10-2014, 03:56 PM
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#29
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Just isn't the player we all hoped him to be. Instead of being aggressive and gritty, we just got a softy who likes to do spin-o-ramas.
Glad Burke is trying to find him a new home elsewhere.
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I can't actually remember him ever really being aggressive and gritty (though I don't remember him doing spin-o-ramas till he came here)....... he was always pretty terrible, not sure why Feaster picked him up.
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02-10-2014, 04:13 PM
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#30
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Guys do you realize that compliance buyouts are use it or lose it? It is only wasting a buyout if the buyout is better used on someone else. Do the Flames have any buyout candidates? Ramo maybe? The Flames have two compliance buyouts remaining. If it goes unused this summer it is gone forever.
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02-10-2014, 04:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Burke has a reputation of being an up-front guy. He probably told him that he wasn't in the plans and that he would try and move him. I don't think that means he should retain salary or use a compliance buy-out.
Hopefully Burke can get something and everyone would be happy. If not, I am sure he'll fit in nicely in Abby.
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02-10-2014, 04:22 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by FAN
Guys do you realize that compliance buyouts are use it or lose it? It is only wasting a buyout if the buyout is better used on someone else. Do the Flames have any buyout candidates? Ramo maybe? The Flames have two compliance buyouts remaining. If it goes unused this summer it is gone forever.
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This is a good point. If there is nothing else to use it on, then using it on SOB is not a waste.
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02-10-2014, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Someone will jump on O'B at half price at the deadline. Burke will make that happen.
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02-10-2014, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FAN
Guys do you realize that compliance buyouts are use it or lose it? It is only wasting a buyout if the buyout is better used on someone else. Do the Flames have any buyout candidates? Ramo maybe? The Flames have two compliance buyouts remaining. If it goes unused this summer it is gone forever.
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Flames may be better off using a normal buyout just so the buyout's cap hit helps them reach the cap floor.
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02-10-2014, 05:56 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
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Fan right or fan wrong? Mcgrattan's wife wearing a Judas Priest shirt in Mexico.
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02-10-2014, 07:02 PM
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#36
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Originally Posted by FAN
Guys do you realize that compliance buyouts are use it or lose it? It is only wasting a buyout if the buyout is better used on someone else. Do the Flames have any buyout candidates? Ramo maybe? The Flames have two compliance buyouts remaining. If it goes unused this summer it is gone forever.
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lol
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02-10-2014, 07:56 PM
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#37
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
Burke has a reputation of being an up-front guy. He probably told him that he wasn't in the plans and that he would try and move him. I don't think that means he should retain salary or use a compliance buy-out.
Hopefully Burke can get something and everyone would be happy. If not, I am sure he'll fit in nicely in Abby.
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I don't think there is a chance in hell that Burke could trade SOB without retaining salary.
SOB might be saying the right things now being in Abby, but i doubt he would be all that happy there next year. SOB is saying the right things because he knows Burke is going to go to great lengths to trade him or at the worst buy him out.
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02-10-2014, 08:07 PM
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#38
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Haha, when you're on the Flames this year you don't bother worrying about staying in game shape or anything.
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This really was a fairly stupid comment.
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02-10-2014, 09:15 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cambodia
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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
This really was a fairly stupid comment.
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How so? I'm going to guess there aren't great ice facilities in Cabo or Maui. Maybe the guys on competitive teams aren't touching the ice this week either, but I'd be surprised if that were the case.
That's not to say that I blame them for hitting the beach, but I'd hope they wouldn't be doing that if we were still in the playoff picture.
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02-10-2014, 09:20 PM
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How so? I'm going to guess there aren't great ice facilities in Cabo or Maui. Maybe the guys on competitive teams aren't touching the ice this week either, but I'd be surprised if that were the case.
That's not to say that I blame them for hitting the beach, but I'd hope they wouldn't be doing that if we were still in the playoff picture.
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Exactly. Bouma and Colborne going to Cabos during the break? I'm sure they're down there to take their nutrition and workouts to the next level. And McGrattan looks like he could hold his own in beer-lympics with the other tourists at his resort.
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