01-07-2014, 07:18 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I would bet on Canada 2 to win gold. Still all elite players, but with the extra motivation of being labeled the B team. I wouldn't want to play Canada 2. Especially if I was Canada 1.
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01-08-2014, 02:22 AM
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#22
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First Line Centre
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I think the forwards group is still fine and goaltending isn't too far of a drop off from the so-called "A" team, but the defense looks pretty bad in comparison to the A team.
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01-08-2014, 02:28 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
They really should treat ice hockey the same way they treat other sports and allow countires to have multiple entrants. If the team qualifies, they're in.
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So much for watching Canadian Soccer, Basketball, & Baseball then.
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01-08-2014, 05:45 AM
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#24
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
They really should treat ice hockey the same way they treat other sports and allow countires to have multiple entrants. If the team qualifies, they're in.
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That's stupid.
No they shouldn't, and it's only individual entrants from same countries. Hockey is a team sport.
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01-08-2014, 05:51 AM
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#25
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One of the Nine
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Space Sector 2814
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With Fleury in net I would say out in the first round, but with Crawford they got a shot at Bronze.
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01-08-2014, 06:01 AM
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#26
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: About 5200 Miles from the Dome
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Originally Posted by _Q_
It's off topic, but since we're playing what ifs... what if Czechoslovakia never broke up and there was no BS involved with the selection process, where would this team rank?
I think that team can easily compete for a medal. Maybe not as good as Canada or Sweden, but definitely in the same league as USA.
What about the USSR team.... never mind, that team would still be hot garbage + Girgensons.
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You forgot Petr Nedved
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01-08-2014, 07:27 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
They really should treat ice hockey the same way they treat other sports and allow countires to have multiple entrants. If the team qualifies, they're in.
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As has been mentioned this does not happen in any team sport.
Also, please refrain from calling it "ice" hockey.
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01-08-2014, 07:31 AM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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probably just out of the medals. Goaltending and D are really weak.
What if Quebec had a team?
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01-08-2014, 07:58 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
As has been mentioned this does not happen in any team sport.
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This isn't true. Countries get to enter a couple of teams in some team sports like beach volleyball, bobsled, etc. It's not common in most team sports and I don't think it's a good idea...but it does happen.
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01-08-2014, 09:08 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
This isn't true. Countries get to enter a couple of teams in some team sports like beach volleyball, bobsled, etc. It's not common in most team sports and I don't think it's a good idea...but it does happen.
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True, but I guess I don't view these as traditional team sports. Beach Vollyball has 2 teammates, Bobsled 4 or 2, while these are teams, they are not team sports in the traditional sense of the phrase (IMO).
I was thinking of traditional team sports, soccer, volleyball, hockey, field hockey, handball, water polo, sevens rugby, sled hockey, basketball.
None the the sports that have teams which number great than 4(ish) allow multiple teams.
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01-08-2014, 09:30 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
That's absolutely insane depth Canadian hockey has.
Make a "2.0" version of the top 8 teams at the Olympics and put them up against the OP's roster in a 2nd tourney, and Canada probably wipes the floor with every team at that tourney.
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this would actually be quite interesting and probably a great development opportunity for the other nations. I would still watch the Canadian 2.0 team play in this type of event. The logistics would be a nightmare however to host to large tournaments at the same time.
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01-08-2014, 09:32 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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oh and if the 2.0 team was in this same tournament, I think they would have a chance at a medal, but likely finish 4th or 5th.
The 1.0 vs 2.0 game would be the best of the tournament. That would be fun to watch with a medal on the line.
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01-08-2014, 09:45 AM
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#33
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
As has been mentioned this does not happen in any team sport.
Also, please refrain from calling it "ice" hockey.
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Bobsled?
Nevermind it was clearly already posted.
The issue with a Can1 and Can2 would be them directly playing each other. One knocking the other out completely. This doesn't happen with bobsled, as it's based on time, not eleminating the other team directly 1 vs 1. (I think, my comment could perhaps be argued against but I don't have extensive knowledge of bobsled history).
Last edited by ranchlandsselling; 01-08-2014 at 09:48 AM.
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01-08-2014, 09:48 AM
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#34
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Unless Harding is the starter, I think the goaltending on this team would be it's Achilles heel.
I'd rank it 5th.
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01-08-2014, 10:06 AM
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#35
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Powerplay Quarterback
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It really comes down to how much time is available for the tournaments. An extra sled added to the bobsled competition just extends the day by a few minutes. I believe beach volleyball plays a fairly compressed schedule (teams can play every day). An extra team added to the hockey, curling, soccer, etc. usually requires extra days which may not be available.
That and usually the federations in charge prefer to have more countries represented because the majority of countries that have votes in the federation are the ones trying to get a spot in the Olympics, not the teams that are hoping to get additional teams - in hockey countries like Latvia, Austria, Slovenia, etc. are going to vote that the last spots go to more countries, not Canada 2 and USA 2.
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01-08-2014, 11:48 AM
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#36
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meers
Unless Harding is the starter, I think the goaltending on this team would be it's Achilles heel.
I'd rank it 5th.
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Not to get too into the "what ifs" as they'll never allow two teams to enter the tournament...but would Canada spread out a couple stars to try and get two medals? In the least, perhaps have Luongo on Canada #1 and Price on Canada #2? It'd definitely be interesting to see how it would all (hypothetically) shake-down as I'm sure Canada #2 wouldn't just be made up of guys who couldn't crack Canada #1.
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01-08-2014, 12:22 PM
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#37
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
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Even that roster has almost all players that would crack any other countries line up, with a few exceptions like goaltending
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01-08-2014, 12:34 PM
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#38
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
Not to get too into the "what ifs" as they'll never allow two teams to enter the tournament...but would Canada spread out a couple stars to try and get two medals? In the least, perhaps have Luongo on Canada #1 and Price on Canada #2? It'd definitely be interesting to see how it would all (hypothetically) shake-down as I'm sure Canada #2 wouldn't just be made up of guys who couldn't crack Canada #1.
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The focus for Canada would still be Gold so doubt they move anybody other than maybe the #3 goalie from the top team down.
My guess is Canada would prefer Gold and 8th over Silver and Bronze.
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01-08-2014, 12:58 PM
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#39
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Scoring Winger
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Forgot Spezza, Lupul, Iginla, Heatley, E. Kane, Cammelleri, etc. Even hard to select a second team
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01-08-2014, 01:34 PM
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#40
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#1 Goaltender
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Team Canada 2.0 roster. Where do you think this team would rank?
If hall and eberle aren't there, for sure team canada 2.0 would have a good chance at a medal. Just look at the centremen they could have,,, thorton, giroux, E. Staal, Seguin, Couture, Richards, J. Staal, Spezza... Enough top centremen to field team canada 2.0 and 3.0... Only other team stronger up the middle would be team canada 1.0.
Lucic, iginla, Neal, St. Louis, Ladd, skinner, cammalleri, lupul, E. Kane, Simmonds, etc. It's a strong team on the wings too.
At defence: giordano, seabrook, Letang, Boyle, phaneuf, Girardi, Brodie (speed on big ice) would be a pretty good core to ride through the tournament.
In goal, it would probably be Crawford and holtby.
I would have iginla with Lucic and thorton. It would be one of the best lines down low in the corners in the whole tournament.
Last edited by stemit14; 01-08-2014 at 02:06 PM.
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