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DOOM · 12-29-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

I'd put a vote in keep Stempniak. He's the type of veteran you want around a rebuild and younger players. He plays a committed and complete game. He's very versatile, can play in all situations, he has a great attitude, sticks up for his team mates and doesn't pout or complain.

I'll go to say he'll be more valuable to the culture of a rebuilding club that whatever we'd get back for him (2nd rounder).

I really liked how Stempniak looked to start the year, but he has looked pretty bad since returning from injury.

I would trade him for a pick, we could always try and re-sign him in the off-season (if he makes it to UFA)

Yoho · 12-29-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

I'd put a vote in keep Stempniak. He's the type of veteran you want around a rebuild and younger players. He plays a committed and complete game. He's very versatile, can play in all situations, he has a great attitude, sticks up for his team mates and doesn't pout or complain.

I'll go to say he'll be more valuable to the culture of a rebuilding club that whatever we'd get back for him (2nd rounder).

I highly doubt Stempniak is getting a 2nd

trackercowe · 12-29-2013, 10:49 PM

Everyone seems to be forgetting Glencross (aside from Moon). I think moving him would be a real interesting proposition, as he may use his no trade clause, but he'd also bring in a pretty solid return.

Tinordi · 12-29-2013, 10:50 PM

cool story bro

Calgary4LIfe · 12-29-2013, 10:52 PM

Byron is starting to look more and more like a player Flames should actually keep. He makes plays with speed and in-tight. I hope he stays up the rest of the year and we see a longer sample size though, but so far he has been the second best (after Hudler) player at making those plays out of nothing. I didn't even care if the Flames had kept him last year, but really (so far) hoping they keep him now.

Dx54 · 12-29-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

I'd put a vote in keep Stempniak. He's the type of veteran you want around a rebuild and younger players. He plays a committed and complete game. He's very versatile, can play in all situations, he has a great attitude, sticks up for his team mates and doesn't pout or complain.

I'll go to say he'll be more valuable to the culture of a rebuilding club that whatever we'd get back for him (2nd rounder).

Also very inconsistent and streaky as f***. His -18 scares me, along with the complete lack of point production in his last 20 games. I'd rather get a pick back for him and have his roster spot open to another player.

flamesfan1297 · 12-29-2013, 10:58 PM

keep:
Lance Bouma
Paul Byron
Joe colborne
Jiri Hudler
Brian Macgrattan
Sean Monahan
TJ Brodie
kris Russel
Ladislav Smid
Dennis Wideman
Sven Baertschi

Jacks · 12-29-2013, 11:01 PM

I'm glad you guys aren't the GM of this team, we'd be icing a team of all rookies.

Why would you want to trade Russell? What are you hoping to get that is better than he is now?
You might get a second rounder but you'd be lucky to draft a player as good as him. He's a young Dman who is playing well above his pay grade, that's the kind of player we should be building around, not dumping.

btimbit · 12-29-2013, 11:09 PM

Keep:

Baertschi
Backlund
Byron
Hudler
McGrattan
Monahan
Stempniak
Brodie
Giordano
Russell
Smid

DOOM · 12-29-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacks

I'm glad you guys aren't the GM of this team, we'd be icing a team of all rookies.

Why would you want to trade Russell? What are you hoping to get that is better than he is now?
You might get a second rounder but you'd be lucky to draft a player as good as him. He's a young Dman who is playing well above his pay grade, that's the kind of player we should be building around, not dumping.

He playing above his pay grade now, agreed. However, he is not a top 4 d-man on this team when everyone is healthy and unless he signs a similar contract I would be looking to move him.

Dx54 · 12-29-2013, 11:11 PM

Keep:

Monahan
Baertschi
Brodie
Hudler
Bouma
Smid
Russell
Wideman

Dump:

Glencross
Cammalleri
Stajan
Giordano
Stempniak
McGrattan
Berra
D Jones
Galliardi
Backlund
SOB
Colborne

strombad · 12-29-2013, 11:18 PM

I'll just leave out any guys I'd want to keep or am either way on.

These are guys I'd like jettisoned (whether it be for picks, prospects, or players of any age):
D.Jones
Stempniak
Butler
Glencross
Breen
Stajan
Smith
Billins
Street
MacDonald
Hudler

Jacks · 12-29-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOM

He playing above his pay grade now, agreed. However, he is not a top 4 d-man on this team when everyone is healthy and unless he signs a similar contract I would be looking to move him.

Agreed that he needs to be signed but assuming he does sign a reasonable contract what do you think we could get for him?
If it's anything less than a mid 1st rounder then we are unlikely to draft a better player.

Caged Great · 12-29-2013, 11:37 PM

The thing is that the Flames currently are just above the floor. If you remove the 13.4 million owed to Stajan, Stempniak, Cammy and Butler, we will need to replace that and then some to hit the new floor. If in the offseason, you throw Setoguchi 3/12, Goc 3/7.5 and say Niskanen 3/13.5, we will eat 11 million of 13.4 mil, get younger and in my opinion improve the team (not counting Cammy as our #1 pick should step in and contribute in the same ball park)

That of course doesn't count all the assets that should be attained by moving those guys.

I would pretty much keep everyone else for the time being and possibly look at dealing the next crop of impending UFA's next year (guys like Glencross and SOB)

You can't get rid of all the vets, otherwise you get Edmonton, but you need to cycle out the UFA's for either new ufa's or players acquired through trade like Russell, or have your elite kids that are ready step in. The team needs to have enough competent players in order to facilitate the kid's development.

shogged · 12-29-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOM

I might be in the minority, but I wouldn't mind moving Russell at the trade deadline.

Wouldn't be a bad move! He is playing great and I wouldn't regret having him sign long term, but if the price is right I think he is a good trade.

Miniac · 12-29-2013, 11:57 PM

I could see Glencross moved in off-season or next years trade deadline.

stemit14 · 12-30-2013, 12:03 AM

I would probably look to trade stempniak and cammalleri. Keep stajan if he can be re-signed for a reasonable amount and term: 3 million per for 3 years. I really don't want to stunt Monahan's development by not having a veteran centre to play ahead of him... Unless the flames plan on overpaying for Paul stastny (which Burke might do).

I'm not a Chris butler hater as much as everyone else seems to be but I do think he should be gone.

The Familia · 12-30-2013, 12:04 AM

Keep:
Monahan
Hudler
Russel
Gio
Brodie

Dump:
Everyone else

I do not like the make up/chemistry of this team one bit. This might ne the most non descript teams we have ever iced. There is no one on this team other than the few I mentioned above that I would pay to watch play. This team is hot garbage.

CaptainCrunch · 12-30-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

So I might be in the minority here, but I think we should consider packaging Baertschi, Gaudreau and Gillies in a deal at the deadline..

Mister Yamoto · 12-30-2013, 12:08 AM

Keep

Monahan, Mcgrattan, Glencross, Bouma, Giordano, Brodie

I'd like to see the Flames get rid of as many bodies as possible. This is the most vanilla roster in Flames history.

1. Help the team win (Brodie)
2. Entertain me (Mcgrattan)
3. Do both (Monahan)

Do 1,2,3 or get the hell out of Calgary. Bye bye Chris Butler.