12-19-2013, 09:37 AM
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#21
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Location: Calgary
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How long ago did you register? If it was more than 6 months then I would contact the school and ask for an explanation. If that gets you no where then go nuclear on them to the highest degree. I find in this City if you have a minor issue the best way to solve it is going to the press, Metro/Herald/Sun etc.
If it was more than 6 months most likely something shady happened with your child. Someone who has more grease in the system who applied later greased the corrupt wheels of the government and got their kid and jumped the line.
The press love queue jumping stories.
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12-19-2013, 09:42 AM
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#22
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Vox
I believe he refers to St. Albert the Great in McKenzie Towne. It always surprises me that someone so hostile to the Catholic system doesn't just send their kids to the Public system.
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Mostly likely because the public system has a reputation of no disciple anything goes atmosphere while the Catholic system is known for much better discipline, even though we detest the whole pope is king bs.
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12-19-2013, 09:46 AM
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#23
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by GGG
More schools isnt the answer. Schools need to be designed for average neighbourhood capacity not peak. Bussing kids to existing schools with space is a reasonable approach. I would perfer they bussed older kids rather than kindergarten kids but using existing infastructure and moving kids rather than buildings is the right albeit not politically correct solution.
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Well I don't disagree that more schools isn't neceassirly the right answer, what I would like to see is more shared-use buildings in general. Why we build things like rec centres, hospitals, etc. and refuse to attach schools is somewhat mystifying. Surely we can be a lot more efficient than needing to build a school on an enormous plot of land and not allowing any other use for that building. Some progress has been made with a couple schools attached to other facilities, but hopefully we see more of this in the future. It has the added benefit of an attached building that can be converted to more community space (or whatever is required) once the school is no longer needed in that neighbourhood, if it gets to that point.
I also have to say that the "horror" of kids riding the school bus is a little over done. I can see not wanting kids in kindergarten, but I was on the school bus from grades 4 and onward, and it wasn't the end of the world.
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12-19-2013, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Mostly likely because the public system has a reputation of no disciple anything goes atmosphere while the Catholic system is known for much better discipline, even though we detest the whole pope is king bs.
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I think I must have missed that class in my 13 years of the Catholic system they didn't once praise the Pope as the all mighty to the world. Hopefully you let your kid have an open mind to the greater meanings of what the Catholic school is trying to teach and not have them have an automatic negative outlook missing the greater meanings of religion in general not specific to the Catholicism just so you can have a stricter baby sitter while you go to work.
Agree with what others have said. Keep fighting. Keep moving up the ladder requesting to speak with the next supervisor until they get sick of you and just allow an exception. It is bound to happen if you ruffle enough feathers.
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12-19-2013, 10:04 AM
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Have any of you been at the first day of registration for these lottery schools?
Is there a boxing day-esque lineup at the school? The waiting list order is based on when you register so I want to be one of the first on the list.
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12-19-2013, 12:36 PM
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I think bigger class size is the way to go. Some of the classes I've seen had maybe 25 kids and the teachers are screaming that they are full. A few more students won't hurt that much in grade school.
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12-19-2013, 12:38 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by darklord700
I think bigger class size is the way to go. Some of the classes I've seen had maybe 25 kids and the teachers are screaming that they are full. A few more students won't hurt that much in grade school.
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The ratio for K-4 is 17-1. How do you figure that more kids don't hurt though, despite all of the evidence to the contrary?
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12-19-2013, 12:39 PM
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#28
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Wow, this pretty much confirms that I won't be moving back out to the suburbs anytime soon. Just brutal.
Good luck OP (and anyone else in the same situation).
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12-19-2013, 12:44 PM
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#29
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Originally Posted by Slava
The ratio for K-4 is 17-1. How do you figure that more kids don't hurt though, despite all of the evidence to the contrary?
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I bet in most country the ratio for K-4 is much higher than 17-1 and their kids rank higher than Canada in academic.
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12-19-2013, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by darklord700
I think bigger class size is the way to go. Some of the classes I've seen had maybe 25 kids and the teachers are screaming that they are full. A few more students won't hurt that much in grade school.
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Despite all the research to the contrary, why do you think that larger class sizes are the way to go? Just curious.
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12-19-2013, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolmk14
Despite all the research to the contrary, why do you think that larger class sizes are the way to go? Just curious.
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To what extend is the question. Is 15-1 going to yied much better result than 17-1? Or is 20-1 going to be that much worse than 17-1?
I don't have much information so this is just my personal feeling. All I can say is my kid is in grade school and if he told me his class size just increased by, say, 20%, I wouldn't worry too much about it. There are a lot more variables in deteremining what kind of a person a child will grow up to be, friends, education or economic level the parents etc. Class size is but one of the variables and not the most important one by my book.
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12-19-2013, 01:23 PM
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#32
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: blow me
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So after reading some of the replies, and doing a little checking on the Catholic school website, I'm wondering if I should choose my community for a new home based on availability of space in the school?
I've made it a point to not pick a community based on where we (my wife and I) work. Well...for me it doesn't matter (work from home). I mean, your career or job could change any day.
Looks like I have a lot to go back and look at.
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12-19-2013, 01:45 PM
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I have always wondered why the school board doesn't have a supply of portables to handle the peak load in new communities. As the communities age out and the schools lose enrolment, shift the portables to the newer communities. It just seems more efficient to move the 1 teacher from the underutilized school to where the kids are than to move all the kids to the teacher. Granted, I have no clue on what the cost balance of what that would take.
I also agree that schools need to be connected and integrated into community hubs. I think that a lot of them aren't built that way due to the paranoid parent factor, but it definitely creates far more efficient and usable spaces that can be transformed in its usage as the community ages.
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12-19-2013, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Mostly likely because the public system has a reputation of no disciple anything goes atmosphere while the Catholic system is known for much better discipline, even though we detest the whole pope is king bs.
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what a load of BS. There is probably more evidence that the Pope is king than the Catholic system being known for its superior discipline.
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12-19-2013, 03:40 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by darklord700
To what extend is the question. Is 15-1 going to yied much better result than 17-1? Or is 20-1 going to be that much worse than 17-1?
I don't have much information so this is just my personal feeling. All I can say is my kid is in grade school and if he told me his class size just increased by, say, 20%, I wouldn't worry too much about it. There are a lot more variables in deteremining what kind of a person a child will grow up to be, friends, education or economic level the parents etc. Class size is but one of the variables and not the most important one by my book.
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Salami tactics. Sure 19-1 is okay, but then the next guy comes around and says that's working great, why not 22-1, and so on and so forth.
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12-19-2013, 03:52 PM
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#36
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I also have to say that the "horror" of kids riding the school bus is a little over done. I can see not wanting kids in kindergarten, but I was on the school bus from grades 4 and onward, and it wasn't the end of the world.
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Yeah, I don't get this. I rode the bus to school every day starting from age five through graduating HS at age 17. What's the big deal?
Obviously attending a school within walking distance of one's home is preferable, but is taking a bus really that much of a problem for children and their parents?
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12-19-2013, 04:41 PM
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#37
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Maccalus
I have always wondered why the school board doesn't have a supply of portables to handle the peak load in new communities. As the communities age out and the schools lose enrolment, shift the portables to the newer communities. It just seems more efficient to move the 1 teacher from the underutilized school to where the kids are than to move all the kids to the teacher. Granted, I have no clue on what the cost balance of what that would take.
I also agree that schools need to be connected and integrated into community hubs. I think that a lot of them aren't built that way due to the paranoid parent factor, but it definitely creates far more efficient and usable spaces that can be transformed in its usage as the community ages.
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This is how they do it already. Take a look at any new school and there are up to a dozen portables. The problem is that they can't keep adding an infinite number of portables. HVAC and the number of washrooms, for example, put a maximum on the number of students that can be put into a building.
The main issue here is that massive amount of kids in the suburbs and the growth Calgary is experiencing. Both boards in Calgary grew ~4% this year, which is impossible to keep up with.
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12-19-2013, 04:43 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Yeah, I don't get this. I rode the bus to school every day starting from age five through graduating HS at age 17. What's the big deal?
Obviously attending a school within walking distance of one's home is preferable, but is taking a bus really that much of a problem for children and their parents?
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The OP's kid is going into Kindergarten, which means he/she is probably 4 years old. Very few parents would be comfortable sending their 4 year old child alone on a bus for an hour a day.
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12-19-2013, 04:56 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Slava
The ratio for K-4 is 17-1. How do you figure that more kids don't hurt though, despite all of the evidence to the contrary?
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How does that compare to other provinces. Seems low to me from what I remember in Saskatchewan. I thought it would be in the 20-22 range.
More kids definately hurts education but I wonder if adding a few more students per class would cause more harm then the lost time potential of a kid riding the bus. I mean 1 hr a day on a bus is one hour a day not spent doing homework, reading, playong outside, or unfortuately eating potato chips and watching TV. What is the value of that 1 hr that is lost due to transport.
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12-19-2013, 04:57 PM
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#40
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Thanks for eveyone who has replied. A lot if good advice and nice to know others are and have been in this situation.
I understand that it may not be possible to get him into the school within walking distance. Would be nice though. We picked a pre school that offers kindergarten transportation to at least 3 other catholic schools nearby hoping that he surely would be going to one of them. We wouldn't even be using the school buses.
The thing that pisses me off is the school in Deer Run they want to ship him off to is not even in my ward. Hey trustee, you think you're going to get my vote next election?
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