[PGT] Flames 2 - Avs 3

[btimbit]

Not even upset at this one, saw a lot of good things that hinted to a bright future.

Too bad we couldn't see the usual Bordeleau v McGrattan fight though.

[Robo]

Seriously this crap about our guys being scared to make mistakes has to stop. If they are that fragile then they should get off the ice because they aren't nhl'ers.

[Dion]

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

Not being negative about Sven, but I think the AHL for the rest of the year would do him good.

Yup, this is the first full game I've watched in a few weeks and besides one or two flashes all I noticed from him was being knocked down and muscled off the puck fairly easily. Give him a year or two to add some muscle and adapt to the NHL style and he should be fine in a few years.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Stempniak has been pretty bad since he returned and is now a -13. They really need to deal him now before his value drops any more then it already has.

I don't think Stempy has been bad at all for the most part, actually. His skating is pretty good considering he recovered from a broken foot relatively recently. He's still forechecking like a demon too.

He's really suffered some pretty bad puck luck since his return from the IR, which has made him look alot worse than he's been playing. Just needs a few good bounces to go his way to reward the effort he often puts in.

Sure, he had a few really bad turnovers and looked pretty bad against the Panthers, but all-in-all, he's been a good bit better than the numbers and plus-minus will say.

[btimbit]

I honestly feel bad for Sven. People have such high expectations from him after that first call-up he had. Now if he doesn't produce immediate results people go nuts. And God forbid the coaching staff actually try to work with and develop him, because if he gets sat like any other kid does, people go off on Hartley. It's a lose-lose for the kid. Should we just go Oilers style, hand him the world then stamp our feet and cry when it doesn't work? Nobody cares if Blair Jones gets sat, but Baertschi is untouchable?

Originally Posted by FlamesPuck12

Well that's what happens when you're scared to make a tiny mistake since he'll be scratched the game after if he does.

If that's the real case he has no spot in this league.

[lifetimefan]

Stempniak has been marginally bad for 10 games since coming off IR, and some people are calling for his head.
Glencross was absolute garbage for 15 games, but it was only a slump and he'll bounce back.

I'm not trying to defend Stempniak. IMO they should both go, but they both need to be held to the same standard.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Who would we rather keep? Stamp or Stajan?

Stumpy, even though I am a big Stajan fan.

For me, it all comes down to the fact that the Flames have more depth at centre and some promising up-and-coming young centres waiting in the wings to make the NHL jump, whereas the team's still much weaker at the RW.

So, keep Stumpy, trade (or don't re-sign) Stajan.

[Dion]

[Buck Murdock]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I honestly feel bad for Sven. People have such high expectations from him after that first call-up he had. Now if he doesn't produce immediate results people go nuts. And God forbid the coaching staff actually try to work with and develop him, because if he gets sat like any other kid does, people go off on Hartley. It's a lose-lose for the kid. Should we just go Oilers style, hand him the world then stamp our feet and cry when it doesn't work? Nobody cares if Blair Jones gets sat, but Baertschi is untouchable?



If that's the real case he has no spot in this league.

Personally I would be happy if it appeared that there was a development plan for Sven. AHL, NHL sent up sent down, as long as its part of a long term plan to develop him. Maybe there is a plan, but its not obvious to fans. Now it just seems like its expected that he be awesome, and if he isn't, it becomes a really negative situation. When a situation becomes negative its tough to come back from.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Terrible giveaway from Ramo results in a goal against.
Terrible and soft play by Butler results in a goal against.

Russell's got as many points as Iginla now so that's something.

Edit: looks like Hudler got the assist now instead of Russell, so I guess nevermind...

So Russell isn't going to the Olympics?

[Karl]

Well this thread has slowed down some...At this rate, it won't make it past 4 pages.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Karl

Well this thread has slowed down some...At this rate, it won't make it past 4 pages.

Four pages??? We're still on the first and will be lucky to get to two pages

[Table 5]

I know not everyone is a hardcore hockey fan, but people who call up and ask questions on Overtime that are easily searchable online grind my gears.

"Hey Pat, when did Sean Monahan get drafted? Hey Pat, where's Joey McDonald these days?"

Come on, it's not 1990 anymore. Stop asking stupid questions that you can find out for yourself in 5 seconds.

[lifetimefan]

@1:13

Q: What kind of explanation did you get from the referee regarding the Baertschi non-call?
A: He said, "I can look you right in the eyes, he said, that was definitely not a hooking call."

Well, it was definitely complete bull****.

[BACKCHECK!!!]

There will be games like this.

Just go home, get some rest, and come back and boot-**** the Oilers tomorrow night.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I know not everyone is a hardcore hockey fan, but people who call up and ask questions on Overtime that are easily searchable online grind my gears.

"Hey Pat, when did Sean Monahan get drafted? Hey Pat, where's Joey McDonald these days?"

Come on, it's not 1990 anymore. Stop asking stupid questions that you can find out for yourself in 5 seconds.

Hey is what is Overtime?

[flylock shox]

The result was a shame, but that was a fun one to watch.

I'm really liking the d corps with Giordano, Wideman, Brodie, and Russell. The puck movement is fantastic.

Sven has some pretty obvious confidence issues. I think he'll be in the AHL by Xmas if this keeps up, and that's for the best.

Anyway, tomorrow should be a goodun.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Dion

Another strong effort from Russell with 2 points.

Best d man out there tonight by a mile. If you can re-sign him now, you do. Without even thinking about it.

And I'm finally on the "Let's put Butler on a ship to nowhere" side. Ugh.

And boys...PLEASE, just beat the Oilers.

[Psytic]

Byron and Sven both need to go down. Sven needs to work on his legs because he gets knocked off the puck to easy and Byron just doesn't have the stuff period we should bring someone else up.