The issue for me is about fair compensation. These universities make billions, yes billions off of these athletes who are paid in scholarships. That's brutal if you ask me
The large majority of these students wouldn't qualify academically to attend any of these schools.
sorry, they don't deserve to be paid. They can live in the dorms for free for all four year if they choose. If they want to move into an apartment after their Frosh year, they get a stipend from the school for living expenses. That being said if you get a 1k stipend to live on for a month don't go out and get an apartment that will cost you $700/mo.
They also get free books, tuition, tutors, dental, vision, and medical. Plus every athlete can go to the athletic building and get dinner every day of the week.
Here at Alabama the school forces one to put $300 on their student ID card every semester (which would be covered under their scholarship) that they can use to buy food at the student center, or the numerous places to eat on campus.
If they live in the dorm, they don't have electricity, water, cable, or internet bills.
They bitch and moan about not being able to get a job which we all know that the mass majority of them wouldn't get a job if they had a chance.
They also qualify for student pell grants which do not have to be paid back.
While they make the schools BILLIONS (big schools) the students that are normal students have to pay tuition, and for all the other fees and a very large majority have a crappy min wage job to buy $1 totinos pizza's.
the students who become alumni who wait years to get tickets and pay out the ass for school are the ones who are being abused.
These kids don't want to go to college for free than they can keep their ass's in their little towns all while being barely able to count to 20, 19 if they're missing a toe.
They get enough, if they push to be paid then they need to kill college sports as scholarship sports all together.
It only takes one kid from a family to get them out of the situation that their family is in. If they took that free degree that is given to them because they can catch a damn ball instead of playing the woe is me card they would be much better off.
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While I think that the athletes should be compensated somewhat (maybe a percentage of jersey sales or something), I think they would be better served to put that money back into the school and lower the ridiculous tuition fees some of these schools have. But we know that won't happen.
Not entirely honest, most of the coaches salary isn't paid by the school, yet the endorsement deals tied into the contract.
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I have more of an issue with the CHL's approach to players payment/scholarships.
I don't have any links but I would assume so. College sports are not 1/100 the level they are down south.
The NCAA is a behemoth. CIS in comparison?
Think of the television contracts college football and basketball get down south. There is no equivalent here. It's hard to find the championship games here (ours that is, not theirs).
The large majority of these students wouldn't qualify academically to attend any of these schools.
sorry, they don't deserve to be paid. They can live in the dorms for free for all four year if they choose. If they want to move into an apartment after their Frosh year, they get a stipend from the school for living expenses. That being said if you get a 1k stipend to live on for a month don't go out and get an apartment that will cost you $700/mo.
They also get free books, tuition, tutors, dental, vision, and medical. Plus every athlete can go to the athletic building and get dinner every day of the week.
Here at Alabama the school forces one to put $300 on their student ID card every semester (which would be covered under their scholarship) that they can use to buy food at the student center, or the numerous places to eat on campus.
If they live in the dorm, they don't have electricity, water, cable, or internet bills.
They bitch and moan about not being able to get a job which we all know that the mass majority of them wouldn't get a job if they had a chance.
They also qualify for student pell grants which do not have to be paid back.
While they make the schools BILLIONS (big schools) the students that are normal students have to pay tuition, and for all the other fees and a very large majority have a crappy min wage job to buy $1 totinos pizza's.
the students who become alumni who wait years to get tickets and pay out the ass for school are the ones who are being abused.
These kids don't want to go to college for free than they can keep their ass's in their little towns all while being barely able to count to 20, 19 if they're missing a toe.
They get enough, if they push to be paid then they need to kill college sports as scholarship sports all together.
It only takes one kid from a family to get them out of the situation that their family is in. If they took that free degree that is given to them because they can catch a damn ball instead of playing the woe is me card they would be much better off.
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How about we offer that to any worker instead of just to athletes? Athletics has little to nothing to do with academics. University Athletics is also technically a cartel that can control wages. It's literally no different than all the plumbing companies getting together and saying instead of wages, they will pay in tuition and board. They get a free tuition, that should be good enough, no?
I don't have any links but I would assume so. College sports are not 1/100 the level they are down south.
The NCAA is a behemoth. CIS in comparison?
Think of the television contracts college football and basketball get down south. There is no equivalent here. It's hard to find the championship games here (ours that is, not theirs).
I have more of an issue with the CHL's approach to players payment/scholarships.
The CHL system is disgusting and needs a complete overhaul.
Absolutely college atheletes should be paid. The school can sell a players jersey, but the player doesn't see a dollar of that. How does that make any sense? On top of that, the player isn't allowed to have a job? These are (in most cases) adults who are being boxed into a horribly corrupt and unfair system.
The CHL system is disgusting and needs a complete overhaul.
Absolutely college atheletes should be paid. The school can sell a players jersey, but the player doesn't see a dollar of that. How does that make any sense? On top of that, the player isn't allowed to have a job? These are (in most cases) adults who are being boxed into a horribly corrupt and unfair system.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with that, but that's not really college based is it? I mean I know they are student players, but it's not for a specific school.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with that, but that's not really college based is it? I mean I know they are student players, but it's not for a specific school.
I think they are referring to the "scholarship program" involved with it. Which pays tuition for Canadian university for how ever many years you spent in the CHL. The catch is you have to use it (i believe) within 2 years of leaving the CHL and you can not have played a pro hockey game anywhere.
So the problem is you get all these kids (most of whome left home and have been getting schooled while on the bus since they were 16) who barely have highschool education, they get roped into the dream of going big with hockey. Obviously a lot of them never reach that goal, and the ones that left the CHL to go to the AHL or ECHL maybe only get a few years of minor pro and now the scholarship they worked for is gone. They give the years of their lives most crucial to developing into a beneficial member of society to hockey and they're not getting much back in return.
I really think they need to abolish the rule between the CHL and the NCAA to allow players to cross over if they wish. IE a 19-20 year old junior realizes he's not going to be an NHL player, but has gotten offers from Ivy league schools to play there on a full ride. He can't take it if he's even played one exhibition CHL game. This happened to a friend of mine, he only played one exhibition game, got offered to go to Brown (i think) but couldn't qualify for the scholarship for this reason. Really stupid.
I see a lot of kids these days leaning towards the college path, and IMO it is a better path both for personal and hockey development.
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^^^ Yeah, it's a bad situation, but it's different than what this thread is about. Kinda comparing apples and oranges here.
And my original comment is correct, the universities and colleges here would be different for executive salaries than down south. Not nearly as sports based.
Like I said, the CHL rules need to be fixed too, but it's two different issues, it's hard to compare them to each other, which was all I was responding to.
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I think they are referring to the "scholarship program" involved with it. Which pays tuition for Canadian university for how ever many years you spent in the CHL. The catch is you have to use it (i believe) within 2 years of leaving the CHL and you can not have played a pro hockey game anywhere.
So the problem is you get all these kids (most of whome left home and have been getting schooled while on the bus since they were 16) who barely have highschool education, they get roped into the dream of going big with hockey. Obviously a lot of them never reach that goal, and the ones that left the CHL to go to the AHL or ECHL maybe only get a few years of minor pro and now the scholarship they worked for is gone. They give the years of their lives most crucial to developing into a beneficial member of society to hockey and they're not getting much back in return.
I really think they need to abolish the rule between the CHL and the NCAA to allow players to cross over if they wish. IE a 19-20 year old junior realizes he's not going to be an NHL player, but has gotten offers from Ivy league schools to play there on a full ride. He can't take it if he's even played one exhibition CHL game. This happened to a friend of mine, he only played one exhibition game, got offered to go to Brown (i think) but couldn't qualify for the scholarship for this reason. Really stupid.
I see a lot of kids these days leaning towards the college path, and IMO it is a better path both for personal and hockey development.
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