Expect as much turnover in the next year as we've seen in the last. Here's what Ken Hitchcock said about a Flames rebuild:
“The rebuild in Calgary for me has to be looked at as a three-year program: one-third in and two-thirds out. Another one third in and two-thirds out and in the third year you’ll have a full squad than can be very competitive,” said Hitchcock, suggesting there will be plenty of turnover before this team starts getting it right.
No he doesn't.. Several sources including Gaudreau himself say he's turning pro after this year.
That team is slightly better than this years team. This years team is playing .500 hockey so it'll be hard to compete for McDavid at that pace.
Nice post though.
Show me these quotes. The closest I can find, is him saying "if" things go a certain a way, he'd like to.
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"If I play well this year and put on the right weight, I think I might be able to do it."
Gaudreau says one of his biggest concerns is being able to play well at the pro level and not be a liability.
"I just want to make sure that when I come in or if I come in, I’m ready to go," said Gaudreau. "I don’t want to be one of the weak links out there. I want to make sure that I’m not a concern out on the ice. I want to make sure that I’m valuable on the ice and not just one of those players that oh, oh, he’s on the ice, we’ve got to watch out."
and do tell, how is that team better? Subtracting Cammalleri, our best LW - and Stajan, our best C and putting Baertschi and Monahan right into the thick of things makes the team "better"? Interesting take.
Thanks for the randomly unjustified antagonistic post.
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I know I'm going to get some heat over this but I don't care... I really hope we have a young team that isn't too successful next year. I would love to see most of our vets (I say most because I think Hudler has to stay) traded away. If we can trade some players and get good younger players to build with and get McDavid it would be a dream...
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He won't be playing for New Jersey.... They won't have a first round pick this year AND the draft is supposed to be a lottery based one this year in that every team that doesn't make the playoffs has a chance at the #1 pick
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He won't be playing for New Jersey.... They won't have a first round pick this year AND the draft is supposed to be a lottery based one this year in that every team that doesn't make the playoffs has a chance at the #1 pick
Oh yea, I forgot about NJ losing their pick. That really sucks for them, haha.
As of right now, their chance of picking first overall is about 1%. Maybe they'll drop down in the standings by the end of the year but I don't see them finishing close enough to the bottom that they would win the lottery.
Expect as much turnover in the next year as we've seen in the last. Here's what Ken Hitchcock said about a Flames rebuild:
“The rebuild in Calgary for me has to be looked at as a three-year program: one-third in and two-thirds out. Another one third in and two-thirds out and in the third year you’ll have a full squad than can be very competitive,” said Hitchcock, suggesting there will be plenty of turnover before this team starts getting it right.
Show me these quotes. The closest I can find, is him saying "if" things go a certain a way, he'd like to.
and do tell, how is that team better? Subtracting Cammalleri, our best LW - and Stajan, our best C and putting Baertschi and Monahan right into the thick of things makes the team "better"? Interesting take.
Thanks for the randomly unjustified antagonistic post.
I don't have time to sift through the archives but there was definitely a lot of speculation on this. The main reason he went back this year was to get the chance to play with his little brother before shipping out of BC.
There's even much talk that if Gaudreau and BC doesn't make the final four that he'll get a pro contract at the end of this year in either the NHL or AHL.
And a rebuilding team gets 'better' the longer they spend in the NHL. Our rookies this year are sophomores next year, so they realistically will be better players. This means we will have a better team. Not to mention we have to meet the cap floor with Cammy gone and will have to replace that contract, possibly signing a big ticket D-man.
We had a near flawless start to the year without Cammy AND Stajan. Do tell how and why you're using them to support your argument?
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We had a near flawless start to the year without Cammy AND Stajan. Do tell how and why you're using them to support your argument?
So you'd build a team based around 10 games at the start of a season? If so, well...then I completely understand your point of view. I'd say it's horribly flawed, as that is way too small of a sample size to make any sort of judgement.
The start to this season featured Hudler scoring at above a PPG pace, which seems unlikely to continue. It also featured Monahan shooting 30+%, which again, can't be maintained for a full season.
Also, to assume a team is going to get better simply because players are getting older seems a bit overly optimistic.
That team wouldn't be cap compliant, you need more players than just Wideman with the large contracts, that team would be cheaper than this year and the cap will be going up. Expect probably around 2/3 of that line-up to actually be on the Flames line-up next season.
So you'd build a team based around 10 games at the start of a season? If so, well...then I completely understand your point of view. I'd say it's horribly flawed, as that is way too small of a sample size to make any sort of judgement.
The start to this season featured Hudler scoring at above a PPG pace, which seems unlikely to continue. It also featured Monahan shooting 30+%, which again, can't be maintained for a full season.
Also, to assume a team is going to get better simply because players are getting older seems a bit overly optimistic.
I base it around what I see. I've seen 14 games with the flames competing in every one of them. I've seen as many players steadily increasing their level of play as others that have steadied out. A team without key players in the first 7 games and different key players out in the last 7 games that has still found a way to produce.
Hudler is still above a PPG and Monahan looks to be good for .5 PPG which is great. Russell is looking like the stud I saw in the WJC. Looks like he's acclimatized his game to the NHL and has been very effective in a top 4 role.
Whether you like it or not, these players have been and are continuing to get it done. Everyone is playing quite well which is both making some vets expendable and upping their trade value for future assets.
Lets stop with these downer posts and enjoy our exciting and promising hockey team.
So you'd build a team based around 10 games at the start of a season? If so, well...then I completely understand your point of view. I'd say it's horribly flawed, as that is way too small of a sample size to make any sort of judgement.
The start to this season featured Hudler scoring at above a PPG pace, which seems unlikely to continue. It also featured Monahan shooting 30+%, which again, can't be maintained for a full season.
Also, to assume a team is going to get better simply because players are getting older seems a bit overly optimistic.
I'd build the team around what I see. I've seen 14 games with the flames competing in every one of them. I've seen as many players steadily increasing their level of play as others that have steadied out. A team without key players in the first 7 games and different key players out in the last 7 games that has still found a way to produce.
Hudler is still above a PPG and Monahan looks to be good for .5 PPG which is great. Russell is looking like the stud I saw in the WJC several years back. Looks like he's acclimatized his game to the NHL and has been very effective in a top 4 role.
Whether you like it or not, these players have been and are continuing to get it done. Everyone is playing quite well which is both making some vets expendable and upping their trade value for future assets.
Lets stop with these downer posts and enjoy our exciting and promising hockey team.
Ya'll not liking Heatley is craaaazy. We're rebuilding, throw a little money at him and see if he turns it around. If not, he's gone after a season or two.
This is of course dependant on my fantasy of signing him to a 1 year 5 million dollar "show me" contract, a la Semin.
