Ashton Scheduled for Conference Call UPDATE: 2 game suspension

[Miniac]

I think its going to be 2-3 games.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Moon, your trolling is ridiculous.

* He has time to adjust his check
* Hit from behind
* Follows through with check
* Directs him head first into boards

The fourth bullet is factually incorrect. Smith clearly gets his hands up to lessen the impact into the boards. This hit was correctly penalized on the ice. Meier had a great look at it, if there was a major to be called he would have done so.

[HOWITZER]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

The fourth bullet is factually incorrect. Smith clearly gets his hands up to lessen the impact into the boards. This hit was correctly penalized on the ice. Meier had a great look at it, if there was a major to be called he would have done so.

So for comparison sake, if you shoot me in the chest, and I was smart enough to wear a bulletproof vest to "lessen the impact", then it's more acceptable?

Overdramatization aside, just because Smith is able to get his hands up, doesn't make the intent of the hit any better.

I think he won't get more than 2. Probably just one.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

The fourth bullet is factually incorrect. Smith clearly gets his hands up to lessen the impact into the boards. This hit was correctly penalized on the ice. Meier had a great look at it, if there was a major to be called he would have done so.

lol

[terminator]

Show your self moon, it's no longer overcast

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by HOWITZER

So for comparison sake, if you shoot me in the chest, and I was smart enough to wear a bulletproof vest to "lessen the impact", then it's more acceptable?

Overdramatization aside, just because Smith is able to get his hands up, doesn't make the intent of the hit any better.

I think he won't get more than 2. Probably just one.

When it comes to checking from behind it absolutely does. Look it up in the Hockey Canada Rule Book.

[theinfinitejar]

If Smith stays down after the hit it's an automatic 5+ gamer, because he got up right away it'll probably wind up being 2 to 3.

[Sgrath]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

When it comes to checking from behind it absolutely does. Look it up in the Hockey Canada Rule Book.

Unless I have misinterpreted the rule, Ashton should have had a 5 and game according to the current NHL Rules

Rule 43 – Checking from Behind
43.1 Checking from Behind – A check from behind is a check delivered
on a player who is not aware of the impending hit, therefore unable to
protect or defend himself, and contact is made on the back part of the
body. When a player intentionally turns his body to create contact with
his back, no penalty shall be assessed.
43.2 Minor Penalty - There is no provision for a minor penalty for checking
from behind.
43.3 Major Penalty – Any player who cross-checks, pushes or charges
from behind an opponent who is unable to protect or defend himself,
shall be assessed a major penalty. This penalty applies anywhere on the playing surface (see 43.5).
43.4 Match Penalty - The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match
penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately
injured his opponent by checking from behind.
43.5 Game Misconduct – A game misconduct penalty must be assessed
anytime a major penalty is applied for checking from behind.
43.6 Fines and Suspensions - Any player who incurs a total of two (2)
game misconducts under Rule 41 and/or Rule 43, in either the
Regular season or Play-offs, shall be suspended automatically for the
next game of his team. For each subsequent game misconduct
penalty the automatic suspension shall be increased by one game.
If deemed appropriate, supplementary discipline can be applied by
the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 28).

[puckluck2]

Should be one game.

[Huntingwhale]

For all the grief SOB gets, acquiring him was well worth it to see a Flame player stick up for his teammate and break the other guys' face. SOB has earned my respect.

[nixon45]

I could see the result being no suspension, although it should be 1-2

Does a hearing mean an automatic suspension of at least one game, or could it just be a good ol' talkin' to?

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Sgrath

Unless I have misinterpreted the rule, Ashton should have had a 5 and game according to the current NHL Rules

Rule 43 – Checking from Behind

1. The penalty assessed was boarding.
2. The player was able to defend himself; the major for CFB doesn't apply.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by nixon45

I could see the result being no suspension, although it should be 1-2

Does a hearing mean an automatic suspension of at least one game, or could it just be a good ol' talkin' to?

Since it's a phone hearing and not an in-person hearing, it can't be a suspension longer than 5 games. It could be a fine, or a suspension from 1-5 games. I believe it can also be nothing.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Meier had a great look at it, if there was a major to be called he would have done so.

If there is no doubt the call on the ice was correct there would be no need for a conference call.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

The fourth bullet is factually incorrect. Smith clearly gets his hands up to lessen the impact into the boards. This hit was correctly penalized on the ice. Meier had a great look at it, if there was a major to be called he would have done so.

WRONG. He pushed Smith into a downwards and forward fall.

Watch it again. Attentively and slower this time.

[moon]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Meanwhile, some think this hit is fine.

To me, he should have gotten five for boarding and a match. I hope he gets a few games. Thanks to SOB for breaking his nose and teaching him a lesson.

Don't think the hit was fine, I already said in the GT that I thought it deserved a penalty.

[lifetimefan]

He should get 2 games, but he's a Leaf, so probably 0 and a slap on the wrist.

[Sgrath]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

1. The penalty assessed was boarding.
2. The player was able to defend himself; the major for CFB doesn't apply.

You are correct that it was called as boarding, but I was specifically replying to your comment on the provisions of the checking from behind penalty.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Worst part about the whole thing is we were going to score! 2 on 1. Lol

I was mad about that initially, but then I thought that over the course of 82 games, a team that sticks up for each other and won't take bullspit play from the other team is more valuable than one goal or even one win.

As Huntingwhale said, SOB earned my respect. Even better that he totally tuned him.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

My guess is one game, maybe two. If the league is serious about preventing injuries from checks from behind, he'll get suspended. This was a textbook example, The fact that he wasn't seriously injured shouldn't stop Shanaban from giving a serious suspension, but it probably will, given past results.