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Stay Golden · 10-19-2013, 11:17 PM

Laziness is easy for Glencross to cure. It is entirely up to him.

Wolfman · 10-19-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Seemed like tonight was his best game, so he's getting there.

Sad thing is I agree. Long way to go!

squiggs96 · 10-19-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Butler pulled a goal close to the line, blocked shots and nailed that little mf'er hertel so .......

Butler also coughed up the puck in the corner, which led to that San Jose scoring opportunity, that he pulled from the goal line. If he doesn't turn the puck over, there is no shot, and then no puck trickling towards the goal line.

Table 5 · 10-19-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Glencross deserves to be critiqued, but he has proven to be a top quality talent when his confidence is high

Which is fine....because he is who he is. But it's also exactly why you can't have him be a leader or an example for the young kids on this team. People who wanted him as the Captain can see exactly why he'd be a poor choice. If at least he was one of those guys who did other things well when they weren't scoring, that'd be one thing. But he doesn't....and that's not the type of veteran I want a guy like Baertschi looking up to.

Mightyfire89 · 10-19-2013, 11:20 PM

Like it or not, he's not going anywhere. NTC. He's been a passenger for a lot of the time so far this season but he's going to have his moments, he always does. You have to take the good with the bad with this guy.

Mister Yamoto · 10-19-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

Playing like someone who thinks he's a superstar on a team of nobodies.

I think I see it the opposite way. With Iginla, Kiprusoff and Boumeester gone I'd say Glencross SHOULD be the best player on the Flames.

I think maybe he needs to be reminded that he is now "the guy" and he can't just take games off like he has done several times this season.

lifetimefan · 10-19-2013, 11:36 PM

Glencross has always been incosistent, and usually reliable for a stupid penalty at a bad time, but we overlooked those shortcomings because of his offense and, at times, decent PK performance.

This whole season so far, his play has been worse than bad. He's a team liability on the ice.

I've never been a huge fan of Glencross, but if I was GM, I'd wait until his trade value improves and pressure him to waive. It's Hartley's job to motivate him somehow. He is not a positive role model for the younger guys, and not buying in to the "never quit" ethos.

Someone needs to remind him that 2 points in October are worth the same as 2 points in April, and if he's riding his NTC, it's the last one he'll ever get. Slow starts aren't a valid excuse. An entire season of this? No thanks.

The Flames have plenty of forwards. Get a few picks/prospects for Glencross, and bring up Horak.

Arkamedius · 10-19-2013, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunkle

The difference between GlenX and Butler is that one has skill and is playing is undisciplined, while the other is playing terribly because he is terrible

Wait who's who??...

Arkamedius · 10-19-2013, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lifetimefan

...if I was GM, I'd wait until his trade value improves and pressure him to waive. It's Hartley's job to motivate him somehow

Quotes like this make me snicker... A player who becomes hot usually doesn't get traded, so what you want is for Glenny to get on a hot streak at which point people (CP Forums) stops compiling about him because he's playing well and the problem is forgot... Until the next episodic synopsis where the plot thickens with more of the same.
Don't get me wrong I complain about players I think need to improve their work ethic and ya it helps me feel better to vent about their bad games when we loose.

Singularity · 10-20-2013, 02:06 AM

Butler, to say the least, saved a goal tonight...but Gelncross..he deserves to be the whipping boy

thymebalm · 10-20-2013, 02:25 AM

I used to think it was Glencross driving the play, now I'm realizing it was Moss all along...

Singularity · 10-20-2013, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by thymebalm

I used to think it was Glencross driving the play, now I'm realizing it was Moss all along...

It was all Iggy

JiriHrdina · 10-20-2013, 07:37 AM

He's not playing well but players go through bad stretches - the reaction is well - an over-reaction.
He'll be just fine in the long-run.

GGG · 10-20-2013, 08:34 AM

He's a 2.5 million dollar 2nd line player being forced to play on the top line. I don't think we can complain about him. He has been this player for years. Streaky, prone to defensive lapses and stupid penalties. If he was always on he'd be a 5-6 million dollar player. Since he is only that guy for stretches of the season he isn't worth that much.

In 20 games or so we will be back to liking him. I have always be in favour of trading him if you can get a decent package coming back. He would be a great add to any contending team. An affordable player that can play on your 3rd line.

Poe969 · 10-20-2013, 08:45 AM

Glencross is not a 2nd line player, he might be on our team but he is a 3rd line player on a good team. People just expect too much from him. He isn't that good, he's way too streaky, he takes dumb penalties but he has good games sometimes.

He doesn't make this team any better but he doesn't usually make it any worse. If he agrees to be traded and a team will over pay for him, we should take the deal.

On a good team, Glencross would do amazing. On the Flames, we just just expect too much from him.

zukes · 10-20-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by squiggs96

Butler also coughed up the puck in the corner, which led to that San Jose scoring opportunity, that he pulled from the goal line. If he doesn't turn the puck over, there is no shot, and then no puck trickling towards the goal line.

For once I read the rest of the thread before quoting and replying....exactly what I was going to say.

As for Glencross, I have always thought he was a lazy, streaky player who took bad penalties. At least Bourque is gone, as he is the same player.

Vinny01 · 10-20-2013, 09:03 AM

He might play better once Cammy comes back total off some of the goal scoring pressure he is putting on himself?

CliffFletcher · 10-20-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Krack Korn

Like it or not, he's not going anywhere. NTC. He's been a passenger for a lot of the time so far this season but he's going to have his moments, he always does. You have to take the good with the bad with this guy.

The only untradeable players in the NHL are the ones with terrible contracts. NTC or not, if things sour with the Flames organization, he'll be willing to move. Though as we saw with Iginla, the NTC would certainly limit the destinations (and return).

CliffFletcher · 10-20-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

He's not playing well but players go through bad stretches - the reaction is well - an over-reaction.
He'll be just fine in the long-run.

The reaction isn't all about production. For some, it's about effort. On a team trying to build an identity for young NHLers, you need the veterans to buy in every game. Glencross stands out for his often lackadisical and undisciplined play. And that isn't a recent thing - he's always been like that. It's tolerable on a veteran team, but very undesirable on a young rebuilding team.

Poe969 · 10-20-2013, 09:32 AM

I forget what game it was, but he scored a goal and after the game I said that I didn't like the way he looked out there and half of CP jumped down my throat. He hasn't looked good this year at all. It's like he's just going through the motions and doesnt' want to be here. People are more interested in seeing the younger guys play and I think that might have Pee'd him off.