Two Florida girls charged after bullying suicide

[GGG]

Youth suicide rates have dropped along with all other crime. I think we have better reporting now not increased incidents of bullying. Not saying it isn't an issue but iy certainly isn't a new issue. One thing that worries me is that by reporting every suicide will make it a more acceptable way out.

[Nyah]

Originally Posted by GGG

Youth suicide rates have dropped along with all other crime. I think we have better reporting now not increased incidents of bullying. Not saying it isn't an issue but iy certainly isn't a new issue. One thing that worries me is that by reporting every suicide will make it a more acceptable way out.

http://www.who.int/mental_health/pre...ideprevent/en/

In the last 45 years suicide rates have increased by 60% worldwide. Suicide is among the three leading causes of death among those aged 15-44 years in some countries, and the second leading cause of death in the 10-24 years age group; these figures do not include suicide attempts which are up to 20 times more frequent than completed suicide.

Although traditionally suicide rates have been highest among the male elderly, rates among young people have been increasing to such an extent that they are now the group at highest risk in a third of countries, in both developed and developing countries.

[GGG]

Let me see if I can dig up where I got that info from. I know it discussed under reporting of suivides in the past as well as how suicide rates clump together. So you see communities with double digit rates of suicide and low values elsewhere. It was a real interesting read.

[Galakanokis]

Bullying and social media are so tough, there are just so many options for the kids these days. If it is not facebook it is twitter or snapchat or ask or...For the second half of grade 12 we made our boy turn over his phone and tablet every night so we could see what apps he was running so we could keep tabs on it. Wasn't so much that he was doing anything wrong per say but I didn't like his and his friends attitudes on there and some very inappropriate things are said and talked about, true or not.

Sure it is easy enough to say just turn it off and don't look at it but those things are still out there whether you read it or not. You are going to school the next day and those things are out there and you damn well better believe you are going to find out about it. Would you rather know before hand or not? Have no idea.

I loathe social media, loathe it. I use it but on my own terms. It is not reality and should not be treated as such. How do you teach teenagers that? Again I have no idea. I just hope that once my youngest hits that age it is a long forgotten way of life and people want to get back to actual interaction.

Teach respect is all I can come up with.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by nik-

I wish more kids knew how irrelevant Junior and High School are in life. It's obviously their entire lives at that point, but it's such a short period of your life and the only people who say High School was the best time of their lives are people who accomplish nothing.

You had me up till that point.

[Ark2]

It's truly sad and my heart goes out to the parents/loved ones, but I really hate the way the media/people in general portray the victims after something like this happens. Think about it: you're an emotionally desperate teen whose life has been made miserable by bullying. By this point, you realize that if you commit suicide in such a manner where it is blamed on the bullying, you'll be elevated to sainthood and the bullies will be vilified by millions. For someone desperate enough, that probably sounds like a pretty satisfying option.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

You had me up till that point.

Maybe "nothing" is a little severe, but if High School truly was the best part of your life, that makes me sad.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Ark2

It's truly sad and my heart goes out to the parents/loved ones, but I really hate the way the media/people in general portray the victims after something like this happens. Think about it: you're an emotionally desperate teen whose life has been made miserable by bullying. By this point, you realize that if you commit suicide in such a manner where it is blamed on the bullying, you'll be elevated to sainthood and the bullies will be vilified by millions. For someone desperate enough, that probably sounds like a pretty satisfying option.

Wut? The victims are committing suicide because they probably feel it is the only escape. I highly doubt they are tying to martyr themselves to get back at their bullies.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Ark2

It's truly sad and my heart goes out to the parents/loved ones, but I really hate the way the media/people in general portray the victims after something like this happens. Think about it: you're an emotionally desperate teen whose life has been made miserable by bullying. By this point, you realize that if you commit suicide in such a manner where it is blamed on the bullying, you'll be elevated to sainthood and the bullies will be vilified by millions. For someone desperate enough, that probably sounds like a pretty satisfying option.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ark2

It's truly sad and my heart goes out to the parents/loved ones, but I really hate the way the media/people in general portray the victims after something like this happens. Think about it: you're an emotionally desperate teen whose life has been made miserable by bullying. By this point, you realize that if you commit suicide in such a manner where it is blamed on the bullying, you'll be elevated to sainthood and the bullies will be vilified by millions. For someone desperate enough, that probably sounds like a pretty satisfying option.

I think that this is the greatest example of insane troll logic ever.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think that this is the greatest example of insane troll logic ever.

He was one of those posters where you can post a gif of Jon Stewart shaking his head to any of his posts, without reading it, and you'll likely be safe.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by flameswin

He was one of those posters where you can post a gif of Jon Stewart shaking his head to any of his posts, without reading it, and you'll likely be safe.

Just my feeling on the matter. Not claiming to be an authority. No need to make it personal.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Ark2

It's truly sad and my heart goes out to the parents/loved ones, but I really hate the way the media/people in general portray the victims after something like this happens. Think about it: you're an emotionally desperate teen whose life has been made miserable by bullying. By this point, you realize that if you commit suicide in such a manner where it is blamed on the bullying, you'll be elevated to sainthood and the bullies will be vilified by millions. For someone desperate enough, that probably sounds like a pretty satisfying option.

You're talking out of your ass. If you have no idea what the reality of these situations really are, it's best to keep quiet than spread this sort of ignorance.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Cole436

You're talking out of your ass. If you have no idea what the reality of these situations really are, it's best to keep quiet than spread this sort of ignorance.

Why? This is a discussion topic on an internet hockey forum, not a medical advisory committee.

I realize that in these types of threads, you're generally only allowed to anonymously offer condolences to no one in particular, or share your violent revenge fantasies, so I apologize for breaking that narrative. That being said, I don't see what is so outlandish about my opinion. For someone that is the victim of bullying and already has suicidal ideations, knowing how the media will respond to this sort of thing might push them further to follow through with it. That's all that I am suggesting. To assert that this is patently absurd would be to suggest that you understand the mindset of every suicidal person that would fall into these circumstances.

Granted, I understand that once this forum starts piling onto someone that there is no digging yourself out, so cue the face palm gifs and let's just get this over with.