10-12-2013, 08:38 PM
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#21
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Had an idea!
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Just a dumb pick to make considering the organizational needs at the time for the Oilers.
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10-12-2013, 08:40 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Should trade him for a goalie. My god is Dubnyk Terrible.
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10-12-2013, 08:52 PM
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#23
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He's just upset he's one of the 3 players on the roster who wasn't named an alternate captain.
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10-12-2013, 08:53 PM
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#24
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Won the Worst Son Ever Award
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With any draft you have to take the best player available. At the time Yakupov was the consensus number 1. The problem was he's a redundant player on the Oilers. If they had any sense they should have traded away that pick for someone to address their real needs. Now they're stuck with a few good young forwards and no prospects who can play great defense or stop a puck.
Too many hot dogs, not enough buns.
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10-12-2013, 09:01 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by renny
but he's a winner... he's won so many damn cups!!
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True enough. Who can forget that in his office he has a photo of the big win...with the Rangers!
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10-12-2013, 09:08 PM
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by krazycanuck
With any draft you have to take the best player available. At the time Yakupov was the consensus number 1. The problem was he's a redundant player on the Oilers. If they had any sense they should have traded away that pick for someone to address their real needs. Now they're stuck with a few good young forwards and no prospects who can play great defense or stop a puck.
Too many hot dogs, not enough buns.
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Oilers management just loves being the centre of attention, and there's nothing flashier in the summer than the no. 1 overall pick.
Honestly, not even sure if the Oilers had picked Galchenyuk or Murrary if it would have helped. They just don't seem to have any sense of team play in the defensive end. They don't compete in the defensive end. Actually, many Flames fans on this site should love the Oilers.
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10-12-2013, 09:08 PM
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Commie Referee
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Bad pick at the time, looks even worse now.
Oiler fans can thank Lowe and Katz for that one. It made way too much sense to trade the pick, pick up another asset or two and take a Murray or Trouba.
Thankfully for us, they screwed up.
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10-12-2013, 09:11 PM
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#28
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Lifetime Suspension
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I hope he is practicing some more goal cellies during this time off.
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10-12-2013, 09:40 PM
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#29
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
I hope he is practicing some more goal cellies during this time off.
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I remember when he did that I thought the hockey gods would make him pay for it. Now he can do hi celebrations from the press box.
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10-12-2013, 10:55 PM
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#30
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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I wonder if the Oilers did this on Skype. Might be time to teach Elkins how to use Skype too.
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10-12-2013, 11:06 PM
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#31
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I look at it differently..
FINALLY Edmonton is holding players accountable, instead of just throwing them up on the top lines and spoon-feeding them. This should have happened with all their picks. That team plays with barely any accountability in their top 6, and they are simply a horrible defensive team - they miss their assignments regularly either through not knowing what their assignment is, or just a lack of effort.
I still think Yakupov is going to be a heck of a player - though Galchenyuk would have been the more ballsy and solid pick for Edmonton. What to do now with Hall and the rest when they don't backcheck, or do the odd terrible turnover? Nothing wrong I think with sitting out a prospect and letting him watch the game from above, while hopefully having someone sit beside him and explain the plays opening up and what should be done.
The Flames (and Hartley) have been making everyone accountable thus far. Sending Baertschi down when he was not ready and not doing what the expectations were wasn't a bad move at all. Sheltering Monahan and Baertschi thus far, and allowing them to slowly earn their minutes is not a bad thing. Throwing them up on the first line and spoon-feeding rookies regardless of performance and mistakes is the way to make a team full of individuals out there.
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10-12-2013, 11:24 PM
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#32
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Shocked that they scratched the Russian and not any of the other young guns. RNH has played 3 games and is a - 7.
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10-12-2013, 11:49 PM
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#33
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2011
Location: in the belly of the beast.
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nail for fail. stupid stupid oilers.
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10-13-2013, 12:29 AM
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#34
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Never given...always earned.
A foreign policy to the Oilers, thankfully.
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10-13-2013, 12:56 AM
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#35
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaybo
Should've drafted Ryan Murray.
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Jacob Trouba IMO.
Or Galchenyuk
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10-13-2013, 12:58 AM
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#36
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by krazycanuck
With any draft you have to take the best player available. At the time Yakupov was the consensus number 1. The problem was he's a redundant player on the Oilers. If they had any sense they should have traded away that pick for someone to address their real needs. Now they're stuck with a few good young forwards and no prospects who can play great defense or stop a puck.
Too many hot dogs, not enough buns.
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Actually he was far from a consensus #1.
I know the Leafs had Morgan Rielly #1.
I know the Flames had Alex Galchenyuk #1.
Seems like Columbus could've had Murray #1.
Wouldn't surprise me if we learned a bunch of other teams didn't have Yakupov #1.
Some years there is a consensus #1. That year was not one of them.
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10-13-2013, 02:55 AM
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Won the Worst Son Ever Award
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Actually he was far from a consensus #1.
I know the Leafs had Morgan Rielly #1.
I know the Flames had Alex Galchenyuk #1.
Seems like Columbus could've had Murray #1.
Wouldn't surprise me if we learned a bunch of other teams didn't have Yakupov #1.
Some years there is a consensus #1. That year was not one of them.
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Any player who is ranked #1 by central scouting and international scouting seems like a consensus to me. TSN had him ranked as #1, as did the hockey writers and personally knowing a couple people inside NHL circles I'd venture to guess 20 NHL teams had him there too. He was no Crosby lock, but the top prospect in that draft at the time was Yakupov.
If there was ever an argument being made in Edmonton between drafting Yakupov and Ryan Murray it wasn't based on who was the best player, most agreed that was Yakupov. The arguement was for who filled the biggest need for the Oilers. Based on the general lack of success in drafting elite d-men with high picks, I can't blame the Oilers for not going the Murray route. However, they did not need a one-way right winger when they already have Eberle and (still) Hemsky. So, why didn't they trade the pick away?
Yakupov could still be a great player, but he'll never get the chance in Edmonton and his trade value today is far below what it would have been if the Oilers just made the trade on draft day. Having the kid in the pressbox doesn't help his value either. Haha...stupid Oilers.
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10-13-2013, 08:38 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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How has Murray played so far this season anyway?
Has the year off due to the injury affect his development at all?
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10-13-2013, 08:42 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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The Oilers might be a playoff team had they chosen Galchenyuk or Trouba.
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10-13-2013, 08:45 AM
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#40
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
The Oilers might be a playoff team had they chosen Galchenyuk or Trouba.
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Still might be a playoff off team if they didn't have that big idiot in net.
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