It's a shame he shunned the Flames, as I am sure he could be acquired for next to nothing at this point. Who knows if he'll actually turn into anything, but giving up a third or fourth rounder for him would have been worth it.
We should trade a 6th for him and send him to Alaska.
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In related news, "Why the F*** did we draft Reinhart when Kabanov was still available" has been sent to Stockton of the ECHL. Kirill was also showing up late for team meetings in Bridgeport.
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In related news, "Why the F*** did we draft Reinhart when Kabanov was still available" has been sent to Stockton of the ECHL. Kirill was also showing up late for team meetings in Bridgeport.
We have 6 reinharts in the organization right now. These are easily acquired. Going for upside rather than probability ala the Jankowski pick is a better strategy. Just because Kabanov looks like a bust and reinhart might be a fringe nhlr to 3rd liner doesn't mean it was the right pick.
We have 6 reinharts in the organization right now. These are easily acquired. Going for upside rather than probability ala the Jankowski pick is a better strategy. Just because Kabanov looks like a bust and reinhart might be a fringe nhlr to 3rd liner doesn't mean it was the right pick.
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In terms of Reinhart vs Kabanov, it looks like the right pick. You can't have all boom-bust picks, you need some character guys like Bouma, Max, Elson etc. And I was one of the ppl who wanted Kabanov over Max. Hopefully the scouts got it right.
And Erixon, we should acquire him and bury him in the minors till he packs his bags and leaves (I know thats harsh but that'll tell every player never to mess with the Calgary Flames).
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We have 6 reinharts in the organization right now. These are easily acquired. Going for upside rather than probability ala the Jankowski pick is a better strategy. Just because Kabanov looks like a bust and reinhart might be a fringe nhlr to 3rd liner doesn't mean it was the right pick.
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It doesn't?
I'm pretty sure it does
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We have 6 reinharts in the organization right now. These are easily acquired. Going for upside rather than probability ala the Jankowski pick is a better strategy. Just because Kabanov looks like a bust and reinhart might be a fringe nhlr to 3rd liner doesn't mean it was the right pick.
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Yes it does.
There is a reason he fell as far as he did - the fact that he almost certainly didn't have what it takes mentally to be an NHLer.
This season is clearly demonstrating to those that don't yet get it that it is a TEAM game, not a collection of talented individuals.
I liked the Reinhart pick then (vs Kabanov) and I like it a lot more now. In all likelihood, Reinhart will be a 3rd - 4th liner at best. But he would do whatever it takes for his team.
I'll take that every time over a head case like Kabanov.
The Flames took a long shot pick with Gaudreau, so it's not like they never do it - they just did it at a better time
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We have 6 reinharts in the organization right now. These are easily acquired. Going for upside rather than probability ala the Jankowski pick is a better strategy. Just because Kabanov looks like a bust and reinhart might be a fringe nhlr to 3rd liner doesn't mean it was the right pick.
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Worst logic ever.
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We have 6 reinharts in the organization right now. These are easily acquired. Going for upside rather than probability ala the Jankowski pick is a better strategy. Just because Kabanov looks like a bust and reinhart might be a fringe nhlr to 3rd liner doesn't mean it was the right pick.
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That Reinhart/Kabanov thing reminds me so much of the Shinkaruk/Poirier situation. Fans who are not pro scouts freaking out because the Flames passed on some guy that the HF, the Hockey News or TSN picked to go much higher. Hopefully it works out exactly the same way for the Flames.
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There is a reason he fell as far as he did - the fact that he almost certainly didn't have what it takes mentally to be an NHLer.
This season is clearly demonstrating to those that don't yet get it that it is a TEAM game, not a collection of talented individuals.
I liked the Reinhart pick then (vs Kabanov) and I like it a lot more now. In all likelihood, Reinhart will be a 3rd - 4th liner at best. But he would do whatever it takes for his team.
I'll take that every time over a head case like Kabanov.
The Flames took a long shot pick with Gaudreau, so it's not like they never do it - they just did it at a better time
I agree you can't do it all the time but you can't just look back and say reinhart is a borderline nhlr and kabanov is crashing and say one was a better pick because of outcome in this case. If you do that you end up drafting like sutter did. A whole lot of players with bottom 6 upside.
I agree you can't do it all the time but you can't just look back and say reinhart is a borderline nhlr and kabanov is crashing and say one was a better pick because of outcome in this case. If you do that you end up drafting like sutter did. A whole lot of players with bottom 6 upside.
It just isn't as simplistic as you make it out to be. Reinhart and Kabanov are specific players. They aren't placeholders for a "low upside" player vs a "high upside" player. There are specific actions Kabanov did in his draft year that were very unusual for a kid to do. There are reasons why Kabanov who is very talented slipped all the way to the 3rd round that year. There are reasons why Kabanov was passed on twice by many teams despite having talent. He's a Russian with questionable character/commitment.
You can't generalize too much from this one particular case. The Flames obviously take chances on skilled players, you can't deny that from looking at recent draft history. And I think most of us are happy to be stuck with Reinhart in this case.
If you want to start generalizing go look at the Flames history of drafting Russians. That'll convince that we should never draft another Russian in the top few rounds again.
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