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Old 09-11-2013, 05:05 PM   #21
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Yep pretty decent, and should save them 1-1.5 million over what they would of needed to pay him in a couple years. 500k less would have been better, but with all the bad deals Buffalo is saddled with (Leino, Myers, Ehrhoff) this one is actually worthwhile.

Like that a team was actually proactive for once too, and didn't dick around trying to nickle and dime a player into accepting a bridge deal. Good on ownership, management, and the Hodgson himself.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:06 PM   #22
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Kyper sucks at math, that's a $4.25M AAV. $27M over 6 is $4.5M AAV.

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That's a solid deal for both parties. Stupid Gillis
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:08 PM   #24
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Kyper sucks at math, that's a $4.25M AAV. $27M over 6 is $4.5M AAV.

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I knew I should have double-checked his math! I'll update the title.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:09 PM   #25
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Gillies' worst trade?
Possibly. I still think giving up the 1st and Grabner for compliance buyout Ballard was the worst
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:13 PM   #26
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NY Rangers were probably hoping this would be a bridge deal. If Hodgson and Kadri both had done bridge deal , have to think Stepan would have thought about it.
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Update it with AAV, not AVV
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:15 PM   #28
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I knew I should have double-checked his math! I'll update the title.
It's actually 4.5/yr - 27M total.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:16 PM   #29
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if he continues to be good enough to be a 2nd line C this is a pretty good deal.

If his development takes him to top line C, this is a steal.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:21 PM   #30
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Good move by Hodgson and his agent to a get a longer term deal rather than a bridge contract because it'll probably pay off. His 5-on-5 numbers without Pominville (and Vanek to a lesser extent) were downright tragic:

With Pominville (65% of his EV TOI):

20 pts
3.60 GF/60 min
2.91 GA/60 min


Without Pominville (35% of his EV TOI):

2 pts
1.16 GF/60min
4.65 GA/60 min

Now that Pominville is gone, we'll see which Hodgson the Sabres are going to get. The guy who can score at a 55-60 point pace or the defensive disaster who scores at a 25-30 point pace. If he doesn't improve his defensive play, I doubt he'll be trusted with the minutes to put up good numbers.
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It's actually 4.5/yr - 27M total.
If only a reliable, professional reporter was informed! I guess we'll have to wait until that happens to know for sure.
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Kypreos changed his numbers three bloody times! I believe it's right now.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:28 PM   #33
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If he can put up 25, 30 goals a season as a second line center then this is a great deal.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:32 PM   #34
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jesus, that is a horrible deal for a player with 1 good season under his belt.
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Good move by Hodgson and his agent to a get a longer term deal rather than a bridge contract because it'll probably pay off. His 5-on-5 numbers without Pominville (and Vanek to a lesser extent) were downright tragic:

With Pominville (65% of his EV TOI):

20 pts
3.60 GF/60 min
2.91 GA/60 min


Without Pominville (35% of his EV TOI):

2 pts
1.16 GF/60min
4.65 GA/60 min

Now that Pominville is gone, we'll see which Hodgson the Sabres are going to get. The guy who can score at a 55-60 point pace or the defensive disaster who scores at a 25-30 point pace. If he doesn't improve his defensive play, I doubt he'll be trusted with the minutes to put up good numbers.
This is interesting. Will be pretty crappy deal if he can't produce without Pominville.

I hope for all Flames fans sake that he thrives and the Kassian trade looks very bad on MG, haha Can'tucks.
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:36 PM   #36
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I like it. Not a bad price, will be good if his development continues.

With him, Grigo, Girgensons, and Larsson we have a wealth of potential at all levels of center.
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Was viewed as a very sheltered player in van. Produced when paired with top end talent last year but I've always thought he was incredibly over rated. I just dont see more then an average 2nd liner in him. He is a total train wreck in his own zobe. Time will tell.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:35 PM   #38
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Buffalo actually looks like they are fairly well positioned to start a youth movement in the next few years.
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I like it. Not a bad price, will be good if his development continues.

With him, Grigo, Girgensons, and Larsson we have a wealth of potential at all levels of center.
What are the chances of Grigorenko lasting the year in BUF? ... Is he projected into their Top 6, currently?
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:29 AM   #40
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This is a very good deal for the Sabres. At 4.25M all he has to do to be worth that is be a legit average 2nd line forward.
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