08-27-2013, 04:16 PM
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Norm!
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$600,000 seems really expensive for Omark, but every building needs a janitor to sweep the floor.
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08-27-2013, 04:30 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Why not take another year to see if this guy has what it takes. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery.
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08-27-2013, 10:44 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Why do people always bring this up? Name the last time there was a FA signing that was immediately traded in the NHL. If another team wanted Omark, why wouldn't they just sign him instead of giving up assets for him in a trade? Trade and sign only makes sense in 2 ways: 1.) A star RFA unwilling to sign with team, but even then they would just trade his rights, not sign and then trade. 2.) In the NBA where the re-signing team can offer more money and term than any other team (see Lebron trade).
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In the NHL the norm seems to be, advanced talks with the player and the acquiring team. Followed by Trade and Sign. Really the same thing as the NBA Sign and Trade just happens the other way. See Wideman last summer, Contract was inked before the Flames publicly announced the trade.
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08-28-2013, 12:05 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Smaller version of horak? (not quite top six, not fit for bottom 6)
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08-28-2013, 12:11 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herashak
Smaller version of horak? (not quite top six, not fit for bottom 6)
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Nope. They aren't particularly similar players at all.
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08-28-2013, 12:36 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
$600,000 seems really expensive for Omark, but every building needs a janitor to sweep the floor.
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I think to raise the AHL salary. You actually see quite a few sure fire AHLers sign for this type of cap hit for that very season. I think there is cap that says AHL salary can't be more than a certain percentage of their NHL salary on a 2way deal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Why do people always bring this up? Name the last time there was a FA signing that was immediately traded in the NHL.
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Kris Russell, July 5th, 2013.
St. Louis signed Russell and then immediately dealt him to the the Flames.
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08-28-2013, 01:28 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I remember watching highlights of Omark years ago and being jealous, with a handful of my friends championing him as their savior at the time (good thing that trend ended .. )
Hope he turns it around for his own sake, he was definitely fun to watch at one point
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08-28-2013, 02:47 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
$600,000 seems really expensive for Omark, but every building needs a janitor to sweep the floor.
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Isn't league minimum $600,000 or pretty close? Seems like a fair deal money wise but I wouldn't have signed him. He's useless but a good signing for the rest of the NHL.
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08-28-2013, 09:08 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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My guess is he's hoping to be picked up on waivers prior to being sent down. He's cheap enough that some team might take a chance on him. I highly doubt the Oilers will keep him with the big club.
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08-28-2013, 03:52 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herashak
Smaller version of horak? (not quite top six, not fit for bottom 6)
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Nothing alike. Omark is basically top 6 or bust where as Horak could be used usefully as an bottom 6 player.
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08-28-2013, 04:01 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herashak
Smaller version of horak? (not quite top six, not fit for bottom 6)
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I think Nigel Dawes would be a more apt description from what I remember of him. Ridiculous on shootouts though.
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08-29-2013, 01:34 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by foshizzle11
Would flames fans think this was a good signing or a bad one if he was in our organization?
I don't know enough about him but it seemed he hasn't done anything really in an oilers uniform. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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27p in 51 games isnt anything now?
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08-29-2013, 03:41 PM
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Damnit, I wanted Omark in the Flames organization. Dude has crazy skills.
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08-29-2013, 03:50 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I have a feeling some of these Oiler cast offs will be better off somewhere else.
A team can only have so many forwards that are smallish and skilled. In 11-12 they had Eberle, Gagner, Hemsky, RNH, Paajarvi, Omark on the NHL roster at some point that season. You can't have that many smallish, young, forwards on a roster and expect them all to develop and succeed.
Would not be surprised to see guys like Omark, Paajarvi, Rajala, do better some where else.
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08-29-2013, 04:45 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Make it or break it year for him this season. Most likely not talented enough to be a top 6 player in the NHL.
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