Certainly overdue but there was some history between Bure and the franchise. Exactly what happened can be found elsewhere and doesn't take much digging. The relationship had to be repaired and Mike Gillis is likely the main reason why it was repaired. Gillis was Bure's agent, is his friend and knows what happened and what Bure took issue with. If Gillis wasn't around actively putting this together over what is likely the last several years (meetings of Bure with the owners etc) it doesn't happen. And that would have been a damn shame. Easily the best Canuck to ever lace up the skates and one of the best to ever play the game.
Hard to believe he is only 42. I can't help but think that if his knees didn't get destroyed he would be doing what Selanne has been doing the last several years. Tremendous player.
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Seriously? I don't really care one way or the other anymore whether it was onside or not, but there is NO WAY you make that judgment from the television feed in which he is not even in the video frame when receiving the pass.
...Oh, and as for Bure's number— It's about damn time.
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Naslund was a class act. An awesome captain, a great leader, and had a huge involvement in community. Some numbers get retired because they put up points. Naslund's number is up there because he did his job extremely well, and then some. 3 time all star, Lester B Pearson, and Hart runner-up. Rocket Richard runner up in 02 (only to Iggy), Rocket Richard runner up in 03.
Great player. He did wonders for the Canucks franchise.
and then he stomped on all that when he left by saying the team wasn't good enough for him or talented enough up front for him
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Seriously? I don't really care one way or the other anymore whether it was onside or not, but there is NO WAY you make that judgment from the television feed in which he is not even in the video frame when receiving the pass.
...Oh, and as for Bure's number— It's about damn time.
Actually I think you can. If you pause/play quickly from the time the pass is made you can see the puck very clearly several times. Unless the puck miraculously slows down or speeds up without being touched, there is more than enough evidence to make an accurate judgement IMO. And I could really care less either. And you're right! It is about time.
You can actually quite clearly see it's not an offside. If you just start repeatedly hitting the play/pause button and stop at the right moment you can clearly see he's not offside.
You can actually quite clearly see it's not an offside. If you just start repeatedly hitting the play/pause button and stop at the right moment you can clearly see he's not offside.
2 line pass?
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WOW! Didn't even think about the 2 line-pass, it's been so long since they removed! Totally forgot. Good point, definitely is a 2 line pass, if the rule is that the puck touches the 2nd line?
I just watched the play on TSN where it was much easier to see the puck on my PVR. I kept pausing it as the puck went up the ice. Bure's image is pretty blury but he has one skate across the line before the puck crosses.
I've never watched the play before because it just got me pissed off. At the game there were two Canuck fans in front of me with a big banner and they blocked my view as they raised the banner as the play unfolded. I wanted to punch someone.
WOW! Didn't even think about the 2 line-pass, it's been so long since they removed! Totally forgot. Good point, definitely is a 2 line pass, if the rule is that the puck touches the 2nd line?
I didn't think of that either but looking at the old rule it seems it only applied from the defensive zone to the centerline and was dependent on the positioning of the skates and not where the puck hits the stick. So there was no need for a rule covering the offensive zone as the offside rule would make it redundant. It was a good play.
An offside pass or second (blue) line pass is a pass from inside a team's defending zone that crosses the red line. When such a pass occurs, play is stopped and a faceoff is conducted in the defending zone of the team that committed the infraction.
There are two determining factors in an offside pass violation:
Puck position when pass is released. Since the blue line is considered part of the zone the puck is in, if the puck is behind or in contact with the blue line when the pass is released, the pass may be an offside pass.
Skate position of the receiver. If the receiver has skate contact with the red line at the instant the puck completely crosses it, the pass is legal regardless of where the puck actually makes contact with his stick. Both of his skates must be completely on the far side of the red line when the puck crosses the red line into the attacking zone is governed by the aforementioned offside rule.
This offside pass rule is not observed by all leagues. For instance, it was abolished by the IIHF, and its member countries' leagues (except the NHL) in 1998. The National Hockey League recently adopted the version used by the top minor leagues, under the terms of their 2005 Collective Bargaining Agreement, in which the center line is no longer used to determine a two-line pass. This was one of a number of rule changes intended to open up the game and improve scoring chances, making the game more exciting for the fans.
Instead of his number, they should have a snapshot of him going offside in 1994 and raise that to the rafters.
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Seriously? I don't really care one way or the other anymore whether it was onside or not, but there is NO WAY you make that judgment from the television feed in which he is not even in the video frame when receiving the pass.
...Oh, and as for Bure's number— It's about damn time.
You can clearly see he is onside and it was not a 2 line pass even with that video. He receives the puck with his skates on the line and the puck hits his stick before they cross and it was passed from outside the defensive blue line. Good goal.
