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Old 07-22-2013, 12:19 PM   #21
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Ok, that's the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Are they cancelling because the errr content isn't doing it for them, or because they're done?

Is there a form that they have to fill out because . . . .ewww
They often say that it wasn't a good movie, but I think the assumption is that they have released the need to view such material.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:32 PM   #22
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My wife has worked doing support for this kind of stuff for many years now, and you would be amazed how often people call in and try and cancel porn pay-per-view movies after 5 minutes.

I doubt anyone who wants this stuff would have an issue calling in and getting it turned on.
You mean all men and most women?
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You mean all men and most women?
When I was typing it, I was meaning people who still relied on getting their content through TV, but I realize that with the entire discussion we are having that you are correct.
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Who decides what is porn? Is it just video or pictures too? How about stories? And how will they filter it - will there be a huge ministry doing nothing beyond checking out sites to see if they are porn? What if a non-porn forum has a user that posts something deemed pornographic - does the whole site get blocked? Can the ruling be challenged?

This is set to be a massive boondoggle. It may sound good but the practical application will be problematic at best.
Exactly. It sounds like someone made a decision without knowing how impossible it will be to execute. What about the potential lawsuits this generates? If I am a huge porn website, wouldn't I be suing for lost revenues?

If the UK government was smart, they would purchase whatever blocking solution and offer it to residents for free. Then, let parents decide how to parent.

Stupid.
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I'm just wondering if this is going to apply to some of the more explicit movies out there.

IIRC there was a movie called the Brown Bunny where she graphically gargled her boyfriends member while apologizing for cheating.

Or that movie with Meg Ryan and Mark Ruffalo where there was some pretty graphic content.

Or the Marlon Brando flick where he sodomized a girl.
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Exactly. It sounds like someone made a decision without knowing how impossible it will be to execute. What about the potential lawsuits this generates? If I am a huge porn website, wouldn't I be suing for lost revenues?

If the UK government was smart, they would purchase whatever blocking solution and offer it to residents for free. Then, let parents decide how to parent.

Stupid.
Exactly.

The part that worries me about this is the only real technical solution is to set up a porn version of the Great Firewall of China, and that would allow for some pretty bad things if those in power decided it was necessary.
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Why do people think government legislation is the answer?

"Porn is bad for our kids.....hopefully the Government can do something about it!!"

Thats the craziest logic I've ever heard. This is going to be ridiculous to legislate.
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Exactly.

The part that worries me about this is the only real technical solution is to set up a porn version of the Great Firewall of China, and that would allow for some pretty bad things if those in power decided it was necessary.
See that is the difficulty.

If you excluded every website on the internet that contains nudity... there wouldn't be a lot left.

Even Wikipedia!

So, if it will be very aggressive in excluding everything of that nature, the internet would be essentially useless and even kids needing to do research for school would have to go to their parents and ask them to lift the restriction.

If it won't be very aggressive, then the "ban" itself will be useless... therefore, why bother? It is mind boggling.
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Why do people think government legislation is the answer?

"Porn is bad for our kids.....hopefully the Government can do something about it!!"

Thats the craziest logic I've ever heard. This is going to be ridiculous to legislate.
Because it gains a lot of political brownie points and it is often easier to pass a law that to actually deal with the root cause of the activity.
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Because it gains a lot of political brownie points and it is often easier to pass a law that to actually deal with the root cause of the activity.
Honestly I can't see how. I mean yeah, some insane mothers will scream, "THANK YOU FOR THINKING OF THE CHILDREN!"

Other than that, anyone in their right mind would vote against someone who would introduce this kind of legislation.
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I wonder if they'll be able to get a sanitized version of Google off the ground.
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I wonder if they'll be able to get a sanitized version of Google off the ground.
https://www.google.com/?hl=zh-CN

I take it that was an intentional reference?
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I take it that was an intentional reference?
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Why do people think government legislation is the answer?

"Porn is bad for our kids.....hopefully the Government can do something about it!!"

Thats the craziest logic I've ever heard. This is going to be ridiculous to legislate.
Reading the posts from UK members on reddit, no one even wanted this legislation. There was no lobbying from family groups or campaigning from politicians, there was zero pressure on the government to do this. Most are speculating that this is simply an easy way to introduce internet filtering, so the British government can start banning other "questionable content" in the future
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Reading the posts from UK members on reddit, no one even wanted this legislation. There was no lobbying from family groups or campaigning from politicians, there was zero pressure on the government to do this. Most are speculating that this is simply an easy way to introduce internet filtering, so the British government can start banning other "questionable content" in the future
Ah. That makes more sense. They're learning from the US.
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This from the country that has topless babes in newspapers? lol
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Man, and people call Canada a nanny state...
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A sexy nanny?????
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The mobile providers already do this there. "Adult content" (including beer sites) is blocked by default and you have to either enter a credit card number (no charge) to unlock it, or go into the store with ID to have them unlock it for you.

Not saying I agree with it, just that it's partially been in place already (albeit not legislated).
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Reading the posts from UK members on reddit, no one even wanted this legislation. There was no lobbying from family groups or campaigning from politicians, there was zero pressure on the government to do this. Most are speculating that this is simply an easy way to introduce internet filtering, so the British government can start banning other "questionable content" in the future
Yeah, this came pretty much out of the blue (pun intended).

It never ceases to amaze me how often Conservatives intrude on people's personal lives all the while decrying the 'Nanny State'.

It could be time to move back to Canada.
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