[Signing] Flames sign Byron and Bouma

[AC]

Originally Posted by googol

Two years ago, Jackman was Crosby lite so I understand not trading him.

No, 3 years ago he was awesome. 2 years ago he was awful and we should have jumped at the chance to get anything back for him, and instead we re-signed him.

[Pliddy]

So now that we are past the deadline, what does this mean for Brodie? Not sure if I am comfortable with Feaster playing hardball with Brodie, out of all our defensive prospects who are knocking on the door, are any of them considered a puck moving defence man?

[herashak]

i think bouma might spend the whole year in abby because of his injury and our LW depth.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Why exactly would Bancks not accept his QO?

Typically when bubble NHLers reject a QO it is because the QO is a 2 way contract and the player wants a 1 way.

Pure speculation but Bancks may also want to explore opportunities with other organizations.

[Freeway]

It may also have to do with AHL compensation. The AHL club has a budget, but I'd imagine a tweener guy wants to make sure he gets taken care of should he not make the crowded NHL roster.

[FlameZilla]

Backlund, Breen, Butler, Billins, Bouma, Byron... leaving Bancks & Brodie to sign from the killer Bs. Bonkers.

[doctajones428]

Originally Posted by googol

Two years ago, Jackman was Crosby lite so I understand not trading him.

I miss the days of Tim Crosby and David Malkin...

[Calgary4LIfe]

I still don't really see Byron as a regular in the NHL. However, if he manages to keep developing, he may prove me wrong. He is fast enough and has a very good work-ethic, so regardless of his NHL upside, he is a very good presence to have down on the Heat.

Bouma was highly regarded by his team mates on the Giants. Good leadership ability. Decent 2-way play with some grit. I still unsure what he really brings on the Flames, but hopefully this season he will get a chance to show management why he belongs on the big club.

Interesting that Bancks has seemingly rejected his qualifying offer. Perhaps they have agreed to it in principle, and are just waiting to sign it? I definitely want him signed and back on the Heat, and maybe given the 'C'. I can't think of another Heat player that is as much of a 'heart and soul' guy. I can't see him turning down the QO, but I guess we will know soon enough.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Bouma's fully recovered from injury. By April already he was doing drills with the coaches after regular practice with no pads. He was making hard turns and his skating looked fine. (By the way, the guy is jacked. He's built like a sh*t brick house). Glad they got him under contract. I think he'll be on the Flames fourth line to start the season.

Byron is still a hell of an AHL player. Glad to have him back with the Heat. Ward's said on several occasions that he's essentially the motor for his team. He's the guy who often sets the pace for the game. Plus, he's decent offensively.

I hope Bancks and the Flames end up coming to some sort of agreement. He's the heart and soul of the Heat and has been basically been the captain for the last three years. Man, I hope he comes back.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Timothy Ronald Jackman

plays RW. Given how Hartley favours vets do you honestly think he would play Bouma over Jackman anyhow? I would, you would, most of CP would but I cannot see him making this club until injuries dictate it.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I still don't really see Byron as a regular in the NHL. However, if he manages to keep developing, he may prove me wrong. He is fast enough and has a very good work-ethic, so regardless of his NHL upside, he is a very good presence to have down on the Heat.

Bouma was highly regarded by his team mates on the Giants. Good leadership ability. Decent 2-way play with some grit. I still unsure what he really brings on the Flames, but hopefully this season he will get a chance to show management why he belongs on the big club.

Interesting that Bancks has seemingly rejected his qualifying offer. Perhaps they have agreed to it in principle, and are just waiting to sign it? I definitely want him signed and back on the Heat, and maybe given the 'C'. I can't think of another Heat player that is as much of a 'heart and soul' guy. I can't see him turning down the QO, but I guess we will know soon enough.

Uhhh... This guy does not deserve a C over the likes of Ben Street and possibly others. Furthermore, this guy is lucky just getting a qualifying offer. There were big expectations of or "hope" for Bancks, even from myself, all of which has disapeared..

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Also in regards to Bouma: He's very versatile. He can play LW, RW, or C. In fact, he played a lot of RW with the Heat.

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Uhhh... This guy does not deserve a C over the likes of Ben Street and possibly others. Furthermore, this guy is lucky just getting a qualifying offer. There were big expectations of or "hope" for Bancks, even from myself, all of which has disapeared..

I disagree. He's a leader through and through. Ben Street's a good AHL player, but there's been zero indication that he can be a vocal leader and captain at the American league level like Bancks can.

[BruceCody]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Backlund, Breen, Butler, Billins, Bouma, Byron...

also Bundari, Bieloff and Bussell

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by AC

Well the rumour at the time was that Feaster was adamant about getting a 2nd round pick in return, and San Jose eventually gave up and traded for Winnik instead.

So its possible we could have gotten a 3rd rounder for him, but who knows.

I guess in the interests of this thread, if we didn't pick up Byron AND we delt Jackman, we'd an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick!

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

Also in regards to Bouma: He's very versatile. He can play LW, RW, or C. In fact, he played a lot of RW with the Heat.



I disagree. He's a leader through and through. Ben Street's a good AHL player, but there's been zero indication that he can be a vocal leader and captain at the American league level like Bancks can.

Plz tell more, how did he look playing RW? is he comfortable?

Galiardi-Knight-Horak
Jones-Reinhart-Bouma
as the bottom 6? Lotsa sandpaper, some skill from the 3rd line, certainly some toughness too. Size as well, all are over 6 feet.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Plz tell more, how did he look playing RW? is he comfortable?

Galiardi-Knight-Horak
Jones-Reinhart-Bouma
as the bottom 6? Lotsa sandpaper, some skill from the 3rd line, certainly some toughness too. Size as well, all are over 6 feet.

I'm guessing you mean David Jones? If so, he should be penciled on the 3rd line rather than 4th and on the RW.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Pliddy

So now that we are past the deadline, what does this mean for Brodie? Not sure if I am comfortable with Feaster playing hardball with Brodie

Who says Feaster is playing hardball with Brodie? That's a big assumption that isn't really supported by anything I've read or seen.

He'll get signed. Still got what, almost two months to training camp?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by lifetimefan

Highly doubt either of these guys see significant NHL time this year.

Really? I think Bouma's pencilled in on our 4th line this year.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Really? I think Bouma's pencilled in on our 4th line this year.

I would have agreed with you a year ago, but that lost year of play is going to hurt his chances. Not only did Bouma lose that year of development it allowed other players to chance to develop and surpass him on the depth chart. It is going to make camp interesting. Bouma will have to prove that he is still capable of being a 4th liner in the NHL and that it is better to give him the position over another player who has a much higher ceiling, like Horak or Reinhart, who would benefit more from playing in the NHL than in the AHL. Also, the additions of Granlund, Knight and Hanowski may force a Bouma off the team and back to the minors. Losing last year was very unfortunate for Bouma because it was his chance to solidify his spot as a roster player. Now he's got more guys to compete with, many of which have way more talent.

I believe this is his last chance with the Flames. They have just too many players coming in that will make Bouma expendable. Next year will be worse when they add Agostino, Arnold and possibly Gaudreau to the mix. Too many bodies and not enough slots. Unless there is some serious movement on the roster takes place I don't know where Bouma plays or whose spot he takes away.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Anduril

I'm guessing you mean David Jones? If so, he should be penciled on the 3rd line rather than 4th and on the RW.

I meant Blair Jones, he can take the FOs and Max play center on that line.

David Jones will be playing top 6 next year.