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Old 07-16-2013, 03:36 AM   #21
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I've thought about this before (breakaway vs. penalty shot) and I believe from a goalie's point of view, the penalty shot is always more favourable simply because they have time to think.

During the 30 seconds or so that play stops and the penalty shot is set up, the goalie can collect his thoughts, try to remember what moves the player likes to use and position himself accordingly. But if the player is coming in on a breakaway, the goalie has zero preparation and can only rely on instinct and reflexes.

In my observation, it also appears that shooters score more on breakaways than they do on penalty shots, but this is only based on what I've seen.

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Old 07-16-2013, 03:57 AM   #22
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If I was a professional hockey player or in a very competitive league where the outcome of a goal was potentially very important than I would choose the penalty shot over the breakaway.

However, if I was playing any competitive sport where the outcome of the game wasn't important for more than just the team I would let the guy by me and not potentially hurt him. I used to play rec hockey with and against guys that took it way too seriously and it just ruined the game for everyone. Sorry but that's a dick move.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:43 AM   #23
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This is true, the player does get more space and time on a PS. However, there are more rules during a breakaway. Player can't stop, puck has to always be in a forward motion, play gets whistled dead when the goalie touches the puck, and it seems in ice hockey, they are now adding even MORE rules as to what players can and can't do on a PS, example, the spinoramas. All these can be done during a breakaway. I'm prepared to be convinced if the right play is letting the player have the breakaway but right now I prefer the predictability of the PS vs the uncertainty of the breakaway.

That's why I'm also looking for stats for breakaway vs. penalty shots.
They put in the rules for PS just so it's not an overwhelming advantage over a breakaway. Even so, I think I'd prefer a PS as a player.

I play D in ice and I would never consider deliberately tripping someone. I punched a guy once for doing it to me.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:35 AM   #25
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First time you did it fine, I'd take the penalty shot. Second time, I'd probably fight you. Especially if it was super obvious.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:40 AM   #27
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Ethics of taking out somebody's legs on purpose in ball hockey aside, I preferred facing a penalty shot to a breakaway when playing goal.

It was mostly a mental advantage. A penalty shot gives the tender extra time to prepare, and mentally draw on prior knowledge of the shooter's tendancies. It also eliminates the possibility of full or partial 2 on 0's, or having someone come crashing into the net.

I'd suggest asking your goalie his preference. Everyone is different.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:30 AM   #29
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The other advantage is the player being tripped might get hurt and be unable to continue playing, therefore also giving your team a numbers advantage for the rest of the game.
This... just wow.... I understand cheap plays to win a game in "competitive" ball hockey, but with the hope someone gets injured...

That's frown upon in professional leagues, not to mention the Calgary Ball Hockey.

wow, just wow
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:34 AM   #30
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I've played ball hockey with Scorponok a handful of times in a pick up atmosphere. I don't know what he's like in a competitive game but for the times I've played with and against him, he's been a total class act. Very clean player.
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Just drop it Scorponok, there's nothing more lame than having another dummy account to agree with your own thread.

the mods arent stupid, they can at least verify your login from the same IP
lol, what did his edited post say above?

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Old 07-16-2013, 08:42 AM   #32
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As a forward I'd take the penalty shot every single time and so would all NHLers..

You have way more time to think and can slow down as much as you want. I really think it's a no brainier.

And I've met Rifleman...I think you guys are out to lunch.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:45 AM   #33
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I find after awhile, players won't even try to beat you because they know on the off chance they do, you are going to bring them down.
Is this co-Ed ball hockey with Calgary Sport and Social? You're hard core dude!
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:08 AM   #34
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I'm a goalie - I would much much prefer a breakaway over a penalty shot (unless you turn it over in your own zone). But I find shooters are more stressed on a breakaway/they tend to rush things - worried about someone back checking etc.
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If opponents are treating you like a pylon, left wing might be a better fit?
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I'm in agreement that a nice clean breakaway in ice hockey has a much better chance of going in than a penalty shot.

The downside of always being a d-bag is that if you miss the trip, the player can potentially have a breakaway opportunity in addition to a penalty shot. But it sounds like the OP is quite proficient with his lumber..
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I admit, it is *sort* of a dickish play. I would not do it in a pick up game or a game just for fun. But if you are playing competitively you have to take the result of the game into account as well as not letting your teammates down. No offense, but you sound like someone who's never played team sports in his/her life. Or at least competitive team sports. If you did, you'd understand where I'm coming from.
What's competitve Ball Hockey?
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lol, what did his edited post say above?

Report both posts to the mods, tell them what happened.

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Old 07-16-2013, 10:25 AM   #39
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Skorponok isn't Rifleman. He's Doctor Destiny!
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:34 AM   #40
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With a penalty shot, both the shooter and goalie have time to prepare, so no advantage either way.

A breakaway results from a defensive breakdown and if the shooter doesn't score, the play often continues - usually resulting in a rebound or more offensive pressure.

I would much rather my team get a breakaway than a penalty shot.
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