07-08-2013, 10:13 AM
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#21
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Officers have to exert power in an arrest situation. As long as she wasn't injured, then I think it's fine. The last thing you would want is giving her enough of a leash to fight back and escalating the situation.
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07-08-2013, 10:14 AM
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#22
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder
Excessive but somewhat understandable.
I don't think cops have the authority to be violent in the face of disrespect, but when you're spit on I can understand how you'd lose it for a second.
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Spit is considered an assault. Everything there was by the book and totally justified. Very well performed arrest.
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07-08-2013, 10:15 AM
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#23
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder
Excessive but somewhat understandable.
I don't think cops have the authority to be violent in the face of disrespect, but when you're spit on I can understand how you'd lose it for a second.
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Should they have asked her to put the cuffs on politely?
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07-08-2013, 10:16 AM
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#24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
So that's what passes for police brutality nowdays. In my days if you spit on a cop, they would have arrested you, taken you downtown and given you the pink bunny treatment.
Any of you that were arrested drunk and being abusive in Calgary will know what I mean.
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Alright, I give. What's the pink bunny treatment? Google's top results are this thread and this post by you http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...&postcount=401 so it wasn't much help
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07-08-2013, 10:21 AM
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Assault, cop was justified.
I wonder what happened in the back of that van/back at the station though.. ha.
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07-08-2013, 10:22 AM
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#26
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Iceland? I was expecting her to get a ticket for jaywalking but what do you do with a blotto drunk.
I think she's been cuffed before. Notice how she puts her left arm into position as soon as her right wrist is cuffed.
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07-08-2013, 10:27 AM
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meh, nothing wrong here
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07-08-2013, 10:27 AM
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#28
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I think it was excessive, but not by a large margin. The dragging was really the only part that seemed like it was not needed. I have no problem with her being thrown to the ground/bench, even though that was obviously the most violent part.
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07-08-2013, 10:31 AM
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#29
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I don't see anything wrong there. I think that she was dragged the length of the van like that so that they would clear the bench and officers could get around her without the bench in the way.
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07-08-2013, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathji
I think it was excessive, but not by a large margin. The dragging was really the only part that seemed like it was not needed. I have no problem with her being thrown to the ground/bench, even though that was obviously the most violent part.
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I don't feel there was any excess in the drag. Most of her weight was in the arms of the officer, and any weight dragging on the ground was minimal. Plus, it was the officer's responsibility to put her somewhere clear of objects before securing the woman. If she was close to the bench, she could grab on and resist or use it as leverage against them.
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07-08-2013, 11:04 AM
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#31
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
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http://kcsweb.kcstar.com/projects/mu...uad/story3.htm
Explanation at the start of the article.
Alternative version is below. Both are similar, but I think this one is better...from here: http://forums.officer.com/forums/arc.../t-119851.html
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Originally Posted by davidh304
This may be urban myth. It certainly never happened. This is the cliff notes version since I suck at story telling.
A suspect that was being difficult or not answering questions would be placed in an interview room with a detective. The detective would ask the suspect a question.
The interview room door would open. In one come a person in a full sized pink bunny costume, the type that looks like a mascot at a football game. The bunny would than take a boxing stance. Said Pink Bunny would then use his big furry bunny fist (or in some stories a carrot) to really whalop the suspect in the face.
The detective would continue on as if there is no pink bunny in the room beating the snot out of the suspect even though this is occurring right in front of him. The pink bunny would then leave the room.
The detective would continue the questioning. Occassionally if the suspect was being hard, deceitful, or lying the pink bunny would re-enter the room and wail on the bad guy. Again the detective would not acknowledge or react to the pink bunny in any way. This would continue until the interrogation was over.
Later the suspect would be fairly upset and agitated. To IAD or perhaps in court, would claim that he was being interviewed and in came a 6 foot tall pink bunny who beat him with a carrot.
"Yeah! The bunny hit me!"
"The who hit you?"
"There was a big tall Pink bunny that came in the room and beat my *** with a carrot!"
Motion to Supress denied.
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07-08-2013, 12:56 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by Superfraggle
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Huh, I thought it would of been more like a 'pink sock', with a police baton nicknamed Bunny.
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07-08-2013, 01:13 PM
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#33
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Thinking about this overnight, it seems perfectly valid for the officers to arrest her (EDIT - in specific: I'm perfectly fine with how they dealt with this...I'm surprised I didn't make this explicit when I posted). They tried to get her to leave them alone first by using less physical techniques (approaching slowly to ensure she still knows she's in the way, nudging with the door). By definition (if memory serves), spitting is considered assault and it was in the officers' power to take her into custody. Collision with the bench was accidental. Maybe an officer can fill me in on why they dragged her so far, but it appears to me that it was done to provide them a more typical arrest position (so that their van isn't in the way on her left and the bench on the right - notice that the other officer goes to her left as soon as he caught up).
Though I wonder what happened beforehand. There's a pool of some liquid on the ground and the arrested woman was lying down first. There's also the question about what the man in the suit was doing at the start. I am unable to read the article, so I'm not sure it was covered there. Context is a huge issue in videos and I don't have the context of what happened before the video starts.
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07-08-2013, 01:13 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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I don't think this is brutality even a little.
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07-08-2013, 01:19 PM
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#35
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Location: Barnet - North London
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I think Officer Barbrady accurately sums up my thoughts on this.
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07-08-2013, 01:26 PM
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#36
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GOAT!
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I don't know what this pink bunny crap is all about, but it my day it was just a billy club and a phone book.
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07-08-2013, 01:35 PM
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#37
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Thats nothing compared to the stuff going on in the US. The US seems to be really bad for police brutality.
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07-08-2013, 02:30 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kirant
Maybe an officer can fill me in on why they dragged her so far, but it appears to me that it was done to provide them a more typical arrest position (so that their van isn't in the way on her left and the bench on the right - notice that the other officer goes to her left as soon as he caught up).
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Well first off you want as much room as possible to take her down into the handcuff position however he probably could have done it in the space where he originally grabbed her. To be quite honest she assaulted him by spitting on him and that really pisses a lot of people off, especially when you are a cop. She assaulted him and then was obviously non compliant so he felt he could justify his use of force in that situation. Could he have done it more nicer? Absolutely. However we have no idea what she said to him and she did spit on him so rag dolling her a bit probably made him feel a little better about the situation. Back in the old days she certainly would have certainly experienced much worse but with technology and the PSA regulations you have to be pretty damn careful how you go about an arrest. Always assume somebody is capturing it on video.
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07-08-2013, 03:45 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Thor, when I come in October, I really hope the police are that nice to me and the drunks coming along. That treatment was justified by her stupidity, but I'm glad the public in Iceland won't stand for it, because once that crack opens, we get the real brutality that we get here.
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07-08-2013, 03:47 PM
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#40
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Location: Tampa, Florida
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Shoot that would be nice takedown here in the US for not doing anything dangerous
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