[News] With the #198 overall pick the Flames select D John Gilmour

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

Aww man. Another off the board pick.

Yeah, the first 200 spots are pretty much consensus amongst all the experts.

[sureLoss]

Button said he personally didn't see Gilmour play. Said it was Ron Sutter, Feaster, and Weisbrod pushed for Gilmour after watching play with Giiles and Janko

[DoNotCompute]

This guy was essentially tied statistically for Providence's top defenceman, with with he and another being seperated by a couple of +/- points.

Seems like a decent late pick to me!

[Da_Chief]

So Button didn't go and watch Janko and Gillies at all last year? Doesn'y sound too good...

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

So Button didn't go and watch Janko and Gillies at all last year? Doesn'y sound too good...

I don't think that's the case. I just don't think he was asked specifically to scout Gilmour. Could be wrong though.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

So Button didn't go and watch Janko and Gillies at all last year? Doesn'y sound too good...

Nope, pretty sure he said in an interview a month or two back that he didn't see Janko at all this year. That's not his job and not his area of concern anymore.

Amateur scouts are completely focused on undrafted players. Todd Button was watching 2013/2014 picks this year. Once a player is drafted they are followed by pro scouts (Weisbrod, Goulet, etc) and also followed by our developmental coach (Ron Sutter).

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

I had him in my top 200.

Good pick!

This is always funny. It never gets tiresome.

[Rifleman]

So, I've got a question regarding the whole Justin Schultz situation with college. If you draft an 18 year old, they can play their 4 years and then become a UFA? So does this mean drafting a 20 year old from a US college is safer? The idea being that they are closer to graduation and will only spend another 2 years in school. Or is the risk of UFA the same?

[Mattman]

Should have taken Anthony Brodeur for the heck of it! Do you know how p#ssed Marty would have been?

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Mattman

Should have taken Anthony Brodeur for the heck of it! Do you know how p#ssed Marty would have been?

payback for being so good after we picked Kidd....

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Mattman

Should have taken Anthony Brodeur for the heck of it! Do you know how p#ssed Marty would have been?

I don't think he would have been pissed... on the contrary I think he would have been happy.

Only reason NJ got the 7th round pick from LA to draft Anthony was because it looked like no one was going to draft him and pretty much did a favor for the Brodeurs.

[Mattman]

You know what I would, that late in the draft, I would feel better not being picked at all rather than being picked by my dad out of sympathy. But my dad is pretty bad ass if he's Marty Broduer...

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Button said he personally didn't see Gilmour play. Said it was Ron Sutter, Feaster, and Weisbrod pushed for Gilmour after watching play with Giiles and Janko

This cannot be right everyone on here knows that Feaster doesn't watch any players and has no clue who he is drafting

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Rifleman

So, I've got a question regarding the whole Justin Schultz situation with college. If you draft an 18 year old, they can play their 4 years and then become a UFA? So does this mean drafting a 20 year old from a US college is safer? The idea being that they are closer to graduation and will only spend another 2 years in school. Or is the risk of UFA the same?

When you draft a college player, you continue to hold his rights unsigned until:

1. August 15 following the completion of his senior college year, if he stays in college until at least the beginning of his senior college year.

... or ...

2. June 1 in the year four years following the year he was drafted, if he leaves college for any reason prior to the start of his senior college year.



For example:

Justin Schultz was drafted in 2008 by Anaheim and entered college in 2009. That made his senior year the 2012-13 season and had he played this past season, Anaheim would have held his rights until August 15, 2013. By choosing to leave college after his third year, he was able to become a free agent on June 1, 2012 (four years after his draft).

John Ramage, on the other hand, also started college in 2009, but he wasn't drafted until 2010. If he had not signed with the Flames, he would have become a free agent on August 15,2013. However, if he had chosen to leave college last summer, the Flames would have retained his rights, without signing him, until June 1, 2014 (four years after his draft).

Most college players start college in the fall following their draft, so the four-year rights and the senior year rights are the same year.



Gilmour is in the same situation as Ramage was. If he doesn't sign with the Flames after his senior year, he will qualify for free agency on August 15, 2016. If, for some reason, he were to leave college before his senior year but not sign with the Flames, he will not become a free agent until June 1, 2017.

[you got PHANUEFED]

The Flames drafted well this year just wish we had a second rounder or two in the mix.

[Enoch Root]

Fun fact: Gilmour is older than Johnny Gaudreau

[dustygoon]

Might as well bump vs start new one....USCHO article on John Gilmour:

“He’ll keep learning, and John has a very high upside,” Leaman said. “We think very highly of him — and so does Calgary, for drafting a 5-foot-11 defenseman in college.”

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/08/22/afte...#ixzz2ckAJqupP

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Might as well bump vs start new one....USCHO article on John Gilmour:

Thanks for the article. Can't imagine why anyone would question this pick.

He said an advisor called him to tell Gilmour that he had indeed been selected, just 11 picks from the end of the draft.

If he even gets a cup of coffee in the NHL it'll be a success.