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Hockey_Ninja · 06-10-2013, 02:02 PM

Please stay away Feaster. Please for the love of all that is good and pure.

Ashasx · 06-10-2013, 02:04 PM

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Please stay away Feaster. Please for the love of all that is good and pure.

I still think we should OS Tanev if it only costs us a 2nd round pick.

Roof-Daddy · 06-10-2013, 02:05 PM

Please stay away from offer sheeting young talented players. We need to hang onto our draft picks, as they are likely to be high draft picks for a few seasons.

It's time to draft and develop our own high profile young stars, the likes of Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Stewart, etc, etc...

kyuss275 · 06-10-2013, 02:05 PM

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Please stay away Feaster. Please for the love of all that is good and pure.

I was going to write this in another thread earlier. I have a bad feeling that Feaster will offer one of the latter 1st round picks for Stewart.

As for offer sheets on any of those guys, even i dont think Feaster would be that stupid.

Canada 02 · 06-10-2013, 02:08 PM

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If I remember correctly, offer sheet compensation is calculated over a total of no more than 5 years. So if we offered him a 7 year, $52.5M contract, we'd have to pay compensation equal to $52.5M / 5 years = $10.5M

My numbers are probably wrong, but I'm pretty sure it goes something like this.

thanks. I didn't know that. That pretty much caps offer sheets to 5 years

bubbsy · 06-10-2013, 02:08 PM

i wonder if the oilers/blues would have interest in swapping the 7th pick for any of the blues big RFAs.

berglund/stewart/pietrangelo/shattenkirk all fill needs (size in top 6, dmen) for the oilers, and are entering their prime years.

Canada 02 · 06-10-2013, 02:10 PM

I would love Chris Stewart in Edmonton!

Hockey_Ninja · 06-10-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

I still think we should OS Tanev if it only costs us a 2nd round pick.

No more trading 2nd's. The Flames are in no position to be offer sheeting anybody that will cost our early round picks. Our only option at this point is to build through the draft (As it should be).

Ashasx · 06-10-2013, 02:13 PM

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No more trading 2nd's. The Flames are in no position to be offer sheeting anybody that will cost our early round picks. Our only option at this point is to build through the draft (As it should be).

Next year is a weak draft. Tanev is still very young.

We'd be lucky to have a 2nd round pick turn into him in any draft year.

the-rasta-masta · 06-10-2013, 02:17 PM

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It would cost us our next four 1st round picks...

Sorry, I was thinking it would be the same as it would have been for O'Reilly. Definitely not worth it then.

Parallex · 06-10-2013, 02:27 PM

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Next year is a weak draft.

You think? I don't, it looks pretty good to me. Not as good as this year but certainly better then last. Ekblad, Reinhart, Nylander all look like legit potential impact talent and the talent depth certainly looks comprable with other draft classes a year out.

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Tanev is still very young.

We'd be lucky to have a 2nd round pick turn into him in any draft year.

I'll agree here... how many second round picks end up as good as Tanev? As a delightful bonus we'd get to stick it to the Canucks.

Canada 02 · 06-10-2013, 02:28 PM

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Next year is a weak draft. Tanev is still very young.

We'd be lucky to have a 2nd round pick turn into him in any draft year.

targeting RFAs of teams in cap trouble can work. The Sharks did it to the Hawks with Hjalmarsson. Even though the Hawks matched, it forced them to give up on Niemi

Nick Leddy of the Hawks would be a good target. Only 22 plays 17.5 minutes a night

Roof-Daddy · 06-10-2013, 02:33 PM

I'd imagine that by the time the Flames could offer sheet Tanev, the Canucks will have possibly freed up $13+ million and would match $1.7 to $3.3 million in order to keep Tanev........that is unless he isn't worth that high of a cap hit, and if that's the case, whats the point?

kyuss275 · 06-10-2013, 02:38 PM

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I'd imagine that by the time the Flames could offer sheet Tanev, the Canucks will have possibly freed up $13+ million and would match $1.7 to $3.3 million in order to keep Tanev........that is unless he isn't worth that high of a cap hit, and if that's the case, whats the point?

Not that it really has anything to do with this thread but the rumours out of Vancouver is that Booth, ( who most feel would be bought out), injury is worse than they originally thought. Its looking like they are going to miss the window on a buyout for him.

IgiTang · 06-11-2013, 09:56 AM

Keep in mind, all picks for compensation would be 2014 and later. The 2013 draft will have already happened. Now, considering our 1st next year could be a top5 pick and perhaps a Mcdavid pick, offersheet is a risky idea at this point.

d_phaneuf · 06-11-2013, 12:35 PM

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Not that it really has anything to do with this thread but the rumours out of Vancouver is that Booth, ( who most feel would be bought out), injury is worse than they originally thought. Its looking like they are going to miss the window on a buyout for him.

they weren't going to buy him out anyway, so it's moot

was always going to be Ballard (if they can't move) + a possible traded player (DiPietro etc.)

and they would match Tanev for a 2nd round pick easily

kyuss275 · 06-11-2013, 01:48 PM

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they weren't going to buy him out anyway, so it's moot

was always going to be Ballard (if they can't move) + a possible traded player (DiPietro etc.)

and they would match Tanev for a 2nd round pick easily

Thats not what i have read. The plan has been, buyout Booth and Ballard ,and get rid of Luongo for whatever they can get ( even though Gillis still thinks he can get a good return

).

They are in cap jail and i cant see how buying out another player from another team would help them cap wise.

neo45 · 06-11-2013, 02:07 PM

Still makes sense to offer sheet Tanev - 10mil for 3 years

They'll likely match but if they don't it's a steal, and if they do match then you made a division rival who is in cap trouble give a big contract to a guy who hasn't played 100 games yet.

I don't think it would take Gillis very long to match that offer though

the2bears · 06-11-2013, 02:27 PM

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Still makes sense to offer sheet Tanev - 10mil for 3 years

They'll likely match but if they don't it's a steal, and if they do match then you made a division rival who is in cap trouble give a big contract to a guy who hasn't played 100 games yet.

I don't think it would take Gillis very long to match that offer though

It's a "steal" if they don't match, but a "big contract" if they do? That doesn't make sense.

neo45 · 06-11-2013, 02:38 PM

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It's a "steal" if they don't match, but a "big contract" if they do? That doesn't make sense.

The Flames and Canucks are in very different situations, both team-wise and salary-wise. Thus the double standard