05-28-2013, 11:24 PM
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Thanks to "Caged Great" for starting the thread and thanks to "united" for that in depth post.
Interesting that they only see Backlund as a 3rd liner. I thought that is where he was now but could take that step to being a #2. Agree that Stajan is just a 3rd liner.
I am hard on Feaster but i like what he said to Tanguay. Sounds like some of the top players pulled the wool over his eyes and he is not happy about it. Tangs is as good as gone. Not sure what the flames can get for him?
I take it the 5'9" player is Domi. Will not matter because he will be gone by the St. Louis pick.
Not happy that the flames plan to spend to the cap. Sounds like we could be grabbing some very long term contracts.
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05-28-2013, 11:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nickerjones
so ....
Max Domi
Ht/Wt:5'10"/190 lbs
Position:C
Team: London (OHL)
He is the only one projected in the first round close to 5'9 right?
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Domi is not 5'10". He is listed as 5'9" in a lot of draft reports. It is very visible when you see him play that he is not Sven's size.
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05-28-2013, 11:28 PM
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I agree with others. I was taken aback when he said the Backlund stuff. He's 24 and has been riddled with injuries so far. I know they said he has durability issues but he's solid at both ends of the ice and has plenty of room to improve. I would be shocked if he doesn't develop into a good #2 center, hopefully with the Flames.
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05-28-2013, 11:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nickerjones
so ....
Max Domi
Ht/Wt:5'10"/190 lbs
Position:C
Team: London (OHL)
He is the only one projected in the first round close to 5'9 right?
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The first name I thought of was Nicolas Petan from Portland. He's 26th on the ISS rankings that came out yesterday.
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05-28-2013, 11:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nickerjones
so ....
Max Domi
Ht/Wt:5'10"/190 lbs
Position:C
Team: London (OHL)
He is the only one projected in the first round close to 5'9 right?
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Nic Petan
Ht/Wt: 5'9''/166lbs
Postion:C
Team:Portland(WHL)
projected to go late 1st round
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05-28-2013, 11:48 PM
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For those who attended: Does it seem like the Flames still have the same excitement (lack of a better word) for giving our younger guys like Horak, Hanowski, Reinhart or Baertschi some consistent minutes in the NHL and using them in the lineup as part of the rebuild as they did at the end of the year, or has that almost passed and moved into packaging these players and acquiring more developed talent?
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05-28-2013, 11:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nickerjones
so ....
Max Domi
Ht/Wt:5'10"/190 lbs
Position:C
Team: London (OHL)
He is the only one projected in the first round close to 5'9 right?
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I was thinking it was Nicolas Petan.
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05-28-2013, 11:56 PM
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I am very surprised that posters think its Petan and not Domi. Domi is listed as 5'9" on TSN and looks very small height wise.
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05-28-2013, 11:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drury18
For those who attended: Does it seem like the Flames still have the same excitement (lack of a better word) for giving our younger guys like Horak, Hanowski, Reinhart or Baertschi some consistent minutes in the NHL and using them in the lineup as part of the rebuild as they did at the end of the year, or has that almost passed and moved into packaging these players and acquiring more developed talent?
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I was not there, but if they plan to spend to the cap, i can't see how they will have room for some of the youngsters?
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05-29-2013, 12:07 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Petan isn't thick at all so he doesn't fit the description. Nor is he ranked in the 10-12 range by anybody.
It is obviously Domi. He's built for his height and ranked top 10-12 by several sources.
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05-29-2013, 12:07 AM
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^That's what brought up my concerns. Along with the comments about wanting larger forwards. Hanowski is the only one that could be considered "big" in the group at 6'2 and almost 200. Unless Horak and Reinhart come into camp with 20lbs of muscle this year. Which Reinhart could plausibly do so, I don't know if Horak will fill out quite like that, he's got a small build.
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05-29-2013, 12:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
I am very surprised that posters think its Petan and not Domi. Domi is listed as 5'9" on TSN and looks very small height wise.
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They are both pretty much the same height. But it is obviously Domi that Feaster is referring to.
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05-29-2013, 12:11 AM
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Think they'll trade up with Blues pick + to nab Domi if they really like him?
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05-29-2013, 12:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freeway
High-end draft-eligible players at Memorial Cup:
-Portland: Jones, Petan, Bjorkstrand
-Halifax: MacKinnon, Drouin, Fucale
-London: Domi, Horvat, Zadorov
The Flames likely have seven of these nine guys in their Top 30.
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I'll go further and guess that Petan and Bjorstrand are the two not ranked in our top 30. Bjorkstrand is not ranked by anybody in the first round from the rankings I've seen. Petan is usually ranked near the end of the first and probably even lower for us because he's so short and slender.
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05-29-2013, 12:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
they expect to spend to or near the cap.
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Unless we're getting there with one year deals, or (short term) bad contract + 2nd for 7th type deals, please no. Keep our cap flexibility for the truly elite UFAs (i.e. Malkin) or for our homegrown talent to absorb as they get better.
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05-29-2013, 12:36 AM
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
I was not there, but if they plan to spend to the cap, i can't see how they will have room for some of the youngsters?
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From what I was gathering by how Feaster was talking about how other teams have cap issues, I'm thinking that they might do Stempniak for Langkow type deals in reverse where we send a lower line guy for a top 6 forward with a higher contract. (I know Langkow flamed out and Stempniak has been great, I'm talking in a generic concept)
I could see something like Stajan, Stempniak, or Tanguay for Heatley or for Marleau as both the Sharks and Wild are kind of screwed cap wise heading into next season and each of those players are okay, but not a huge amount better than any of the guys on the Flames. We get the better asset, they get cap relief and a decent replacement of some sort.
That's really the only way I could see us spending to the cap as the UFA's aren't really worth the commitment $/term wise
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05-29-2013, 12:42 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by united
I agree with others. I was taken aback when he said the Backlund stuff. He's 24 and has been riddled with injuries so far. I know they said he has durability issues but he's solid at both ends of the ice and has plenty of room to improve. I would be shocked if he doesn't develop into a good #2 center, hopefully with the Flames.
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I think its more of a challenge to Backlund to step up and take the reigns, and/or a message to fans to lower their sometimes unfair expectations of him.
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05-29-2013, 01:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freeway
High-end draft-eligible players at Memorial Cup:
-Portland: Jones, Petan, Bjorkstrand
-Halifax: MacKinnon, Drouin, Fucale
-London: Domi, Horvat, Zadorov
The Flames likely have seven of these nine guys in their Top 30.
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I was there tonight and the first thing that popped into my head when I heard this was freaking Zach Fucale. I am terrified Feaster will draft him in the 1st.
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05-29-2013, 07:48 AM
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I think you guys are reading too much into the small ranked player. Feaster was talking about how he wanted to build a big physical team that plays hard. He was saying how he takes full responsibility for the lack of size on the team this past season and wants to change that. He then mentioned that last year that there wasn't a single player taken (i think in the first round?) that was under 6'-0". He then said that they had a guy that was 5'-9" ranked in their top picks for this year and that he had better have amazing hockey sense, legs like tree trunks and something about his butt in order for them to consider him this year.
So I took that to mean that a smaller player would have to jump off the page at them in order to get picked.
I really enjoyed the session last night, the questions from the crowd were fair and didn't include a lot of rambling. Feaster was very open and went into great detail about the draft, the exit interviews and lots of other tid-bits. It was good stuff.
I didn't really like the way Ken responded to the STHer that asked about why ticket prices were increasing when they had dumped so much salary. I felt it was unnecessarily confrontational and all he really had to do was say they put a small increase on to help them work towards a new building. People would have eaten that up, but instead he went on about the waiting list and even said "If you don't want your tickets we would have no problem selling to the next guy." No doubt that is true but is that really any way to talk to your client base? I thought it was kind of tasteless.
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